http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/worl...=1&oref=slogin

Gen. Peter Pace says there is "no evidence" that the Iranians are supplying weapons to the Iraqi insurgents.

Hmmm.......

More disinformation from the White House? Another intelligence failure perhaps?

Or just an honest mistake?

As usual, the NYTimes writes a headline that is definitive, and contradicts what was actually said. (The originator of this thread follows suit of course.) Why waste a great spin when done so masterfully?

Pace uses language that leaves himself room for denial. There are phrases such as, "...not necessarily..." and language that allows for him to be proven wrong in the future, yet save face at the present. Just look at the following from the article:
In the end, Pace's role is then illustrated as that of a diminished role in the chain of command. It's in the last paragraph:Just because the material, the weapons, the knowledge to set the demolitions, is Iranian (and proven to be through careful examination of the evidence) that "doesn't necessarily" mean it's coming directly from the Iranian government.... right?

Yeah, right.

It could happen.

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The actual NYT headline is "Pace Questions Whether Iran Arming Iraq". Perhaps you should read the article rather than making this false assumption.

Of course, the question still remains - what clear evidence implicates the Iranian government or is the administration once again exaggerrating a threat to fit a policy?

Items manufactured in many countries are being used to kill coalition soldiers. Bombs are often detonated with cell phones. Should we make a charge against the U.S.?

This really doesn't pass the logic test. The vast majority of the insurgency directed at U.S. troops comes from Sunni elements, which the Iranians would be very unlikely to help, as they are fiercely anti-Iran. The U.S. has done Iran a huge favor in getting rid of Saddam and completely dismantling the Baathist government. Events are playing out in their favor to the point where they wouldn't feel the need to intervene in this manner.

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Hmm so the "senior military advisor" to the president is a diminished role? Wait a minute did up just become down again?

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/17129144/

“That does not translate that the Iranian government per se, for sure, is directly involved in doing this,” Pace told reporters in the Indonesian capital, Jakarta. “What it does say is that things made in Iran are being used in Iraq to kill coalition soldiers.”


Generall Pace would simply like some better evidence, I mean, The US sold AK's as well as russians..

theres gangs right here in the US with modded Automatic AK's...

Doesnt mean "Russia behind US drug lords." as a shifty Neo-Con headline would say.

Nonsense. He did not say that.


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Didn't we find Iranian weapons with IRANIAN SERIAL NUMBERS being used by terrorists in Iraq?

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No Mannlichers, were found 100 of an 800 consignment to Iran.

http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/worl...in&oref=slogin

ROTFL. Like Iran wouldn't file off the serial numbers on all their weapons for such a case, FULL WELL KNOWING the U.S. would use it as an excuse to invade them if they were implicated.

The CIA probably manufactured the weapons with phony serial numbers to plant "evidence."

And if we invade Iran, and we start finding Syrian weapons with SYRIAN SERIAL NUMBERS being used by insurgents in Iran and Iraq? What then? Invade!!!!!!

And if we invade Syria, and we start finding Egyptian weapons with EGYPTIAN SERIAL NUMBERS being used by insurgents in Iran, Iraq and Syria....what then?

And so on... until we start finding Chinese weapons with CHINESE SERIAL NUMBERS... And then it will stop, simply because they can't invade China.

Funny how all these little boogeymen are always a lot weaker than us and capable of being occupied.

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Yes. Mortar Roundsmade in 2006..Iranian produced TNT..etc.

The only thing Pace is saying is that he from his own knowledge cannot 100% say they come directly form the Iranan government.
Although some of the arms being directly assoiciated with the internal force(Quds(sp?)) of the Iranian Republican Guard clearly says its more then likely.


The Austrian rifle thing is just further proof of Irans arming of Terrorists in Iraq. The weapons where sold by Austria to Iran yet they are being captured inside Iraq.

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