Thread: "Total" Victory in Libya

That "it was all about the oil" in Libya shouldnt surprise anyone not blinded by doctrine. I dont need to highlight anything. Just read the whole thing.

Time: Paris Conference On Libya’s Future Opens In Optimism (And Opportunism)



September 1, 2011

The conference marks the real start of what’s expected to be serious competition for business contracts in Libya between the same countries who banded together in the military intervention that eventually aided rebel forces to take control of the country. Italy—Libya’s colonial ruler—is known to be particularly wary of intervention-leading countries like France and Britain increasing their previous business footholds in Libya. European nations, meanwhile, are eyeing U.S. efforts to extend the activity of American companies that has steadily grown in Libya over the past decade.

Indeed, given the stakes involved in that sector alone, it’s a little hard to believe the mantra that the Paris conference is one of utter selflessness and altruism. The skepticism increases against indications already surfacing that the rush to secure oil contracts has in fact been under way for months. On Thursday, French daily Libération ran an article and photo of a NTC document written and signed last March just 17 days after Paris succeeded in its push to get UN resolution 1973 passed authorizing sanctions against Gaddafi and approving the air intervention to protect civilians from his advancing troops. According to Libération, the NTC document details “the oil accord agreed upon with France in exchange for the recognition of our Council”, which “attributes 35% of (Libya’s) total crude oil (business) to the French in exchange for its total and permanent support of our Council”. In March. Talk about naked short selling of futures.

In other words, despite all the other security, political, and humanitarian issues on the agenda of the Paris conference, considerable attention and discussion will inevitably directed to business considerations between the NTC and other participants. With military operations set to give way in the coming months to reconstruction and business, it was probably tempting to open the Paris conference with the cry, “Let the games begin”. Problem with that is, they already had.

In case you missed it..

McClatchy Newspapers: WikiLeaks cables show that it was all about the oil in Libya - May 16, 2011

Now the Libyan people wont be able to use "our resources" for their own purposes such as social and economic development.

I don't know about the US, but the UK wanted to kill Gaddafi and his family, it had nothing to do with oil. For the French and Italians it did, they got most of the oil contracts. The Conservatives are now in power, they don't forget the material used by the IRA in the Brighton bombing was supplied to them by Gaddafi, the British more than anyone else wanted him and his family dead. But it seems all the US politicians forgot about Lockerbie when they were trying to stop the US from taking part in the no fly zone.

Originally Posted by william walker

I don't know about the US, but the UK wanted to kill Gaddafi and his family, it had nothing to do with oil. For the French and Italians it did, they got most of the oil contracts. The Conservatives are now in power, they don't forget the material used by the IRA in the Brighton bombing was supplied to them by Gaddafi, the British more than anyone else wanted him and his family dead. But it seems all the US politicians forgot about Lockerbie when they were trying to stop the US from taking part in the no fly zone.

The evidence shows that Gaddafi was not behind the Lockerbie bombing. It was retaliation from the Iranians for the US rocket attack on Iranian Air Flight 655 by the U.S.S. Vincennes.

Gadhafi had made peace with America by turning over his nuclear weapons program to Bush. The NATO war against Gadhafi tells foreign dictators that America doesn't negotiate in good faith, and that there can be no peace. In other words America has told these guys that they now have to fight to the death. The war in Libya was stupid and will come back to haunt this country.

saw lots of Libyans in my local hospital out patients dept yesterday afternoon

Originally Posted by william walker

I don't know about the US, but the UK wanted to kill Gaddafi and his family, it had nothing to do with oil. For the French and Italians it did, they got most of the oil contracts. The Conservatives are now in power, they don't forget the material used by the IRA in the Brighton bombing was supplied to them by Gaddafi, the British more than anyone else wanted him and his family dead. But it seems all the US politicians forgot about Lockerbie when they were trying to stop the US from taking part in the no fly zone.

You know the oil companies in Libya were TOTAL, ENI, Dutch Shell, Hess, Marathon, Occidental, BP and Exxon.. although I believe Exxon quit their offshore project a year earlier.

There was also a Chinese company.. maybe Synopec.

They are all back at work and production is about what it was before the Arab Spring in Libya .. about 1.3 million bpd.

Why shouldn't major powers be concerned about the most precious commodity on the planet and do what they must to secure their access to it?

Bunch of crybabies.

Wars over resources have gone on since the dawn of mankind. Hell, its why the Homosapiens wiped out the Neanderthal's.

Originally Posted by Margot

You know the oil companies in Libya were TOTAL, ENI, Dutch Shell, Hess, Marathon, Occidental, BP and Exxon.. although I believe Exxon quit their offshore project a year earlier.

There was also a Chinese company.. maybe Synopec.

They are all back at work and production is about what it was before the Arab Spring in Libya .. about 1.3 million bpd.

And. What are you trying to tell me?

Originally Posted by kenrichaed

Why shouldn't major powers be concerned about the most precious commodity on the planet and do what they must to secure their access to it?

Bunch of crybabies.

Wars over resources have gone on since the dawn of mankind. Hell, its why the Homosapiens wiped out the Neanderthal's.

Ok, well then the next time there's an oil war you should have no problem giving your life for the cause since you're not a crybaby.