Senax Said...

"ANYONE can cut undersea cables. All you need is a relatively large boat, not even one half the size of an Aegis Cruiser in our navy. A typical patrol boad will do just fine. Dredge the bottom with a hook and steel cable until you hook the cable and winch it up."

True, except in the specific case of the cable at the UAE location they claim that they have "video surveillance for the period 12 hours before, during, and 12 hours after the cable break" and they say no ships were in the area.

I have also not hear any reports of seismic activity in the area of any of the four cable breaks.

Given that I think subs are the most likely the culprit.

I admit this is a sledgehammer attack and the CIA is not know for such crude tactics. As ill conceived as many as their actions are (like all too often failing to fully consider the blow back) they are usually a lot more subtle than this.

Who is not so subtle is the Mossad. Not because they aren't capable of being subtle but because they often want their actions to carry a message.

That may be all this was.

One last shot across the bow for the Mullahs?

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are we dealing with "who has the most go gain" and thus must be guilty?? with israel and or the united states being in the docket?

[quote]However, shortly thereafter Egypt released a statement to the effect that video footage of the area where the cuts took place showed no surface ship activity for the previous 12 hours and added that these particular lanes are closed to maritime traffic for the express reason of avoiding damage to the cables.[/url]
[url]http://theuglytruth.wordpress.com/2008/02/05/internet-cables-cut-prelude-to-war-or-simply-a-warning/

here we have a contested point of information. it was either Egypt or its was the UAE that videoed the empty sea, thus 'proving' it wasn't a surface craft dragging its anchor or whatever in a sea lane baning boat travel because of just such a threat.

Hmmmmmmm........still no "invasion".

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Warning (4th Cable Cut) Iran Invasion may be Imminent!!!

if the from the washington post:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...013101395.html

the the operational definition of "imminent" would be a week or perhaps less. and that discounts the fact that information could be redirected via other means such as satellites. also this from the post article:

means that the outage was not complete nor catastrophic.

i understand that it is understood that the jews control america and that israel controls the jews and that they, the jews, have the most to gain, which is the definition of conspiratorial reality, but don' t you think they should have knocked out the satellite feed now being used to redirect the information highway to that most advanced of regions, the muddle east.

to know not and to not know you know not leads to platitudinous nonsense such as this:

for those wondering why israel's service was not interrupted:

from which i excerpted this: http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satelli...icle%2FPrinter

ignorance knows not that it knows not.

Here is the best story I have yet seen covering all this (cut cables, Iranian Oil bourse, potential war in Iran) material.

They (Mathaba) claim that Iran's Internet service was never seriously affected.

I earlier claimed that Iran was cut off due to several references (blogs not official reports) that included a number of IP traffic snapshots showing 100% packet loss to Iran. I admit that that particular detail never did manage to percolate all the way to any even semi-reputable news outlet so it may have been a hoax? Or it is possible that Iran wouldn't admit it if it were true?

I don't know, I just don't want to seem like a stubborn jackass for sticking to a point of argument I can't really prove.

Halla was right there is some debate about which cable this video proof was supposedly taken of? I think now Egypt (but the story I read was reported in an UAE press release and since they also had a cable cut I thought they were claiming the footage was of their cable.)

Story link...

http://www.mathaba.net/0_index.shtml?x=580907

BTW since some here have clearly judged me to be antisemitic I should say that Mathaba appears to be a rather Arab/Persian friendly site and I am not posting it as my reference because it is my regular source for news but rather because in this one case they have presented the best all around roll up of this developing story I have seen. Their story has a lot of included links and hopefully if one reads them all they will get a good picture of what is going on.

The story does also have the same general sense of a ringing alarm bell for a potential new war that my original post does.

I still can't "prove" anything with regards to an invasion of and or bombing of Iran. If it happens I can claim to be a soothsayer and if it doesn't then you can call me a paranoid conspiracy theorist. Perhaps both? Perhaps neither?

Anyhow, since the invasion/bombing or whatever (if it is going to happen?) hasn't happened yet we can only say for now that this bears further watching.

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Halla said... "for those wondering why Israel's service was not interrupted:"

Halla, I was not one that pushed that particular detail. As a matter of fact this is the first I made any reference to it at all. And only because you did.

I admit now that the Arab/Persian press is getting a-hold of the story the lack of a cut to Israeli Internet service is popping up as a point they like to talk about but I never brought it up till you did.

If you were not intentionally singling me out for antisemitic accusations then I apologize but your line of quoting me led me to believe that you were.

I did make reference to the Mossad and how they are sometimes not so subtle in their affairs of foreign intrigue. That is not an anti-semitic statement. It is a statement of fact. I also said they may sometimes have some reason for not being subtle.

That doesn't mean that I said they (or Israel) don't have a right to exist. So I hope you aren't putting me automatically in that camp?

Anyhow this post is getting a bit off topic so I will end it.

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Remember the cold war doomsday clock (do they still have that?)? It had got moved up to like 5 minutes 'til midnight when the world would come to an end. I am thinking there could be a similar clock that could show how "immininent" the invasion of Iran is.

Yaaaaa, they always said "10 minutes to midnight" and "1 minute to midnight" and midnight never came. Notice how the appeasers poo-poo the possibility of another 9-11 attack, but create nutso threads like this one suggesting an attack on iran is minutes away.

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