This story is potentially of great importance and it is not getting the
attention it deserves from most media (mainstream US and English)
media in particular. In my mind 4 cables now puts it well
beyond the chance of coincidence and or accident.

Please look this story up and help fill in the blanks.

There are hundreds of variations on the story on the press wires but few are making it to US outlets.

I have to wonder if something big is afoot?

Many have suspected that something big might happen soon I so can't help but wonder if perhaps this is the first hint that something is indeed happening?

If you (perhaps planned on invading Iran?) and you wanted to keep the
world in the dark about it for as long as possible (until it was already a done deed and pretty much irreversible) then cutting cables (and shortly after that jamming radio transmissions) would be a great way to do it.

Remember there have been stories (rumors really) of gigantic US and
British troops and supply gatherings near the Eastern Border of Iraq.

In a potentially unrelated story? Hugo Chavez just last week raised an alarm bell about large gatherings of troops and supplies along the Southern
Colombia-Venezuela border. He accused the US of orchestrating an invasion
of Venezuela using Colombia as the base for the assault.

Or maybe some enterprising American workers finally got sick of having their jobs outsourced to India and figured that it was time to throw a shoe
in the mill-works?
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Ships did not cut internet cables: Egypt

Posted 6 hours 23 minutes ago

Ships are not responsible for damaging undersea internet cables in the
Mediterranean, Egypt's Government says.

Two cables were damaged earlier this week in the Mediterranean sea and
another off the coast of Dubai, causing widespread disruption to
internet and international telephone services in Egypt, Gulf Arab
states and South Asia.

A fourth cable linking Qatar to the United Arab Emirates was damaged
on Sunday causing yet more disruptions, telecommunication provider
Qtel said.

Egypt's transport ministry said footage recorded by onshore video
cameras of the location of the cables showed no maritime traffic in
the area when the cables were damaged.

"The ministry's maritime transport committee reviewed footage covering
the period of 12 hours before and 12 hours after the cables were cut
and no ships sailed the area," a statement said.

"The area is also marked on maps as a no-go zone and it is therefore
ruled out that the damage to the cables was caused by ships."

Earlier reports said that the damage had been caused by ships that had
been diverted off their usual route because of bad weather.

A repair ship is expected to begin work to fix the two Mediterranean
cables on Tuesday.

- AFP

Tags: internet, internet, egypt, qatar, united-arab-emirates

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Second related post and story here...

Interesting that this should come right as Iran was AGAIN trying to
make a go of their on again off again oil bourse project.

The first time Iran announced their oil bourse was to open was March
2006 It has attempted to open it about four times since then but failed to.
No real reasons were ever given for the delays. Heard a rumor that not enough Euros were made available to do the volume of exchanges expected.

It is funny that the Bush admin canceled the FEDs reporting of M3
(Eurodollars) in Feb 2006 (just a couple days after Iran had their first press release where they announced their plans to open an oil bourse.

Basically the world's economists have been pretty much in the dark
over the direction and rate of flow of Greenbacks into or out of foreign banks
into/out of the US treasury since early 2006.

I don't think it is a wild speculation to say that greenbacks have been flooding back to the FED but the exact amount (and the origins of that flow) is a
mystery because the M3 data is missing.

We never got a good explanation of why the FED stopped reporting the
M3, something they had been doing reliably since the 1950s.

And now this "coincidence" with the cables (the very cables that tie
Iran's banks to the rest of the world) and the breaks come right as they are opening their bourse.

Doesn't sound like a coincidence to me.

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http://www.presstv.ir/detail.aspx?id=37468&sectionid=35

Iran Oil Bourse to deal blow to dollar
Fri, 04 Jan 2008 20:45:41

Iran's Finance Minister Davoud Danesh-Jafari
The long-awaited Iranian Oil Bourse, a place for trading oil,
petrochemicals and gas in various non-dollar currencies, will soon
open.

Iran's Finance Minister Davoud Danesh-Jafari told reporters the bourse
will be inaugurated during the anniversary of the Islamic Revolution
(February 1-11) at the latest.

"All preparations have been made to launch the bourse; it will open
during the Ten-Day Dawn (the ceremonies marking the victory of the
1979 Islamic Revolution in Iran)," he said.

The Minister had earlier stated that the Oil Bourse is located on the
Persian Gulf island of Kish.

Some expert opinions hold inauguration of the bourse cold
significantly devalue the greenback.

MK/JG/RE/HAR

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one cut would be an accident
two cuts a coincidence
three cable cuts a conspiracy
that fourth undersea cable cut likely portends something - and i can't imagine that it would be good

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I agree that the damaged/cut cables sound suspicious, but you haven't managed to make a logical connection between that event and Iran. There's a Conspiracy area for posts of that sort of groundless linking of events.

Iran doesn't have the capability to cut undersea cables.

In fact, that's a very difficult exercise.

As far as I know, there's only two nations in the world that have the capability to do that on a "large scale".

One of them is the United States.

Hmm.... thanks for the heads-up. I'll see what I can find on this.

This post is not entirely groundless. Iran is being Anti-American. It is deliberately trying to dismantle Dollar Hegemony. This would be devaststing for America.

Venezuela is backing this.

It might be farfetched but, you never know do you. Maybe the 'Surge' was for other reasons

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May the enlightened intention of Those Gone to Bliss, past, present and future, be realised,
May I neither be bewildered in migratory existence
Nor I lulled by the solitary quiescence [of nirvana]!
But may I liberate beings throughout the expanse of space!'

- Tibetan Book of the Dead by Padmasambhava

Here are some interesting links for the unconvinced:

http://mostlywater.org/opec_wants_dump_us_dollar
http://www.lewrockwell.com/pilger/pilger36.html
http://www.courant.com/news/nationwo...,2563110.story

If you need more, please let me know.

The Hegemon might well be trying to prevent challenges to it's authority. In all aspects.

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May the enlightened intention of Those Gone to Bliss, past, present and future, be realised,
May I neither be bewildered in migratory existence
Nor I lulled by the solitary quiescence [of nirvana]!
But may I liberate beings throughout the expanse of space!'

- Tibetan Book of the Dead by Padmasambhava

Here's why...

1) Because Iran is the nation that has been the focus of attention for us all for many months. You call it conspiracy if you want but I am not the one that has been rattling the saber so (*)(*)(*)(*)ed hard for about 7 years now.

The fact that the US, Israel, (and to some extent or another Great Britain), have Iran in their cross hairs is no secret.

Or are you really going to try and deny that to an informed crowd like this one?

2) I say Iran because they were the nation most affected by the cable cuts.

At one time earlier in the attack IP traffic to Iran was scorering 100% packet loss (but now Iran is back on line but with greatly reduced traffic)

"Lucky for them???" they managed to find some helpful American ISPs willing to route their traffic through continental USA.

Do I really have to spell out how nice and convenient the NSA will find all that Iranian traffic now flowing through lines directly controlled by us?

Are you really going to try and say you don't think they will eavesdrop to their hearts content on that traffic?

Here you say...

[quote=skeptic-f;425761] "but you haven't managed to make a logical connection between that event and Iran."

I posted an official Iranian government press release announcing their new oil bourse was to open between the 1st of Feb 2008 and the 10th of Feb 2008.

And Iran's Internet access during that very period is magically cut. I suppose the timing on that is just another coincidence for you too.

Many many different reputable financial papers here in the US and all over the world including even the WSJ have commented about "the Death of the Dollar" and have made numerous mentions about how new bourses in Russia, China, the UAE, Dubai, and two speculative new bourses (the Iranian one about to open) and (the OPEC collective bourse that is as yet just a project in planning) all of these new oil bourses have put great pressure on the American owned and US dollar valuated London based ICE and the American owned and US dollar valuated New York based NYMEX and have led to many countries seeking better contract terms with these new competitors using more stable Remembi, Yen, and Euros.

All of that is straight out of the World's financial papers for over a year now.

And you accuse me of not making a "logical argument?"

If it was logical enough for numerous reputable financial op-eds to focus on the phenomenon it is logical enough for me to use the same arguments.

You yourself indicate that having so many cable cuts in rapid succession and in such close geography is at least a little fishy.

At least we won't have to argue over that one point but it sounds as though you are the sort that would argue the point even if Navy Seals were recorded doing it (and freely admitted it.)

It's not that you can't see the pattern here or even that you really deny it. You just find it convenient to deny it because you want it to be true and you want the effort to be successful. You want an expanded war and most likely such an event will even fatten your stock portfolio if it does happen.

"There's a Conspiracy area for posts of that sort of groundless linking of events."

There are plenty of op-eds all over the world pointing the same fingers I am.

This may have the generic feel of a conspiracy theory to you but it doesn't change the facts that something very fishy is going on and I think we all know it.

Regardless, who is right and who is wrong on this matter will be apparent soon enough.

What better time to have a little military fiasco than when the attention of most of the World is glued to the events of Super Tuesday?

I just wonder what you will say if a 5th or a 6th cable is cut?

I guess just mark it up as another coincidence.

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Yep, anything that highlights actual or potential dodgy activity by the US and Israel must head for the conspiracy section.....LOL
Hey, just a wild guess, but are you Jewish

Lemme' guess... you also worked in a communications company as an undersea diver laying miles of underwater cable. You once walked the bottom of the Atlantic from New York to Iceland.

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I think you missed the point Senax.......

The point of the thread (from my understanding) is that the US is covertly engineering a war against it's two most vocal critics of all it's policies, future and present.

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May the enlightened intention of Those Gone to Bliss, past, present and future, be realised,
May I neither be bewildered in migratory existence
Nor I lulled by the solitary quiescence [of nirvana]!
But may I liberate beings throughout the expanse of space!'

- Tibetan Book of the Dead by Padmasambhava