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List of Islamic Terror Attacks This Year
http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/

All of 2007
http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/attacks-2007.htm

All of 2006
http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/attacks-2006.htm

2005
http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/attacks-2005.htm

2004
http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/attacks-2004.htm

September 11th through the end of 2003.
http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/attacks-2001-2003.htm


The Real Iraq Body Count--What You're Not Supposed to Know
http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/Pa...yCount2006.htm

"We Think the Price Is Worth It"

Extra! November/December 2001

Media uncurious about Iraq policy's effects- there or here

By Rahul Mahajan

Lesley Stahl on U.S. sanctions against Iraq: We have heard that a half million children have died. I mean, that's more children than died in Hiroshima. And, you know, is the price worth it?

Secretary of State Madeleine Albright: I think this is a very hard choice, but the price--we think the price is worth it.

--60 Minutes (5/12/96)

Then-Secretary of State Madeleine Albright's quote, calmly asserting that U.S. policy objectives were worth the sacrifice of half a million Arab children, has been much quoted in the Arabic press. It's also been cited in the United States in alternative commentary on the September 11 attacks (e.g., Alexander Cockburn, New York Press, 9/26/01).

But a Dow Jones search of mainstream news sources since September 11 turns up only one reference to the quote--in an op-ed in the Orange Country Register (9/16/01). This omission is striking, given the major role that Iraq sanctions play in the ideology of archenemy Osama bin Laden; his recruitment video features pictures of Iraqi babies wasting away from malnutrition and lack of medicine (New York Daily News, 9/28/01). The inference that Albright and the terrorists may have shared a common rationale--a belief that the deaths of thousands of innocents are a price worth paying to achieve one's political ends--does not seem to be one that can be made in U.S. mass media.

It's worth noting that on 60 Minutes, Albright made no attempt to deny the figure given by Stahl--a rough rendering of the preliminary estimate in a 1995 U.N. Food and Agriculture Organization (FAO) report that 567,000 Iraqi children under the age of five had died as a result of the sanctions. In general, the response from government officials about the sanctions’ toll has been rather different: a barrage of equivocations, denigration of U.N. sources and implications that questioners have some ideological axe to grind (Extra!, 3-4/00).

There has also been an attempt to seize on the lowest possible numbers. In early 1998, Columbia University's Richard Garfield published a dramatically lower estimate of 106,000 to 227,000 children under five dead due to sanctions, which was reported in many papers (e.g. New Orleans Times-Picayune, 2/15/9. Later, UNICEF came out with the first authoritative report (8/99), based on a survey of 24,000 households, suggesting that the total “excess” deaths of children under 5 was about 500,000.

A Dow Jones search shows that, although some papers covered the UNICEF report, none mentioned that the previous figure had been contradicted. In fact, papers continue to cite the obsolete Garfield numbers (Baltimore Sun, 9/24/01).

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There is what negociating peace with terrorists will result in. The selective outrage of the liberals has nothing to do with lost lives. It has everything to do with advancing a political agenda. As anyone can see, not confronting evil costs, by far, more lives that does defending innocent people from being oppressed raped and murdered.
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Subtle piece of racism lol

Can't be bothered giving you examples of Christian/Catholic/Jewish violence, oppression and hatred. If someone doesn't know now they never will.
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Subtle piece of racism lol

Can't be bothered giving you examples of Christian/Catholic/Jewish violence, oppression and hatred. If someone doesn't know now they never will.
Sigh!

That's the best you've got? Liberals! LOL
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That's the best you've got? Liberals! LOL
I'm not a liberal. I'm just not an idiot either.
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American Dead........................4032

United Kingdom.........................176

Other......................................133

Iraqi.................................unknown

American Wounded................29,676

Self inflicted deaths..................1079*

Missing.......................................3

Not counted by DoD......................5

AWOL....................................3816

Days till Retard Leaves Office.......284
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There is what negociating peace with terrorists will result in. The selective outrage of the liberals has nothing to do with lost lives. It has everything to do with advancing a political agenda. As anyone can see, not confronting evil costs, by far, more lives that does defending innocent people from being oppressed raped and murdered.
Yes, so of course the answer to terrorists based in Afghanistan is to attack Iraq. Then why haven't we invaded Dafur? North Korea? China? Profit agenda?

go away little child you're disrupting this thread.
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Yes, so of course the answer to terrorists based in Afghanistan is to attack Iraq. Then why haven't we invaded Dafur? North Korea? China? Profit agenda?

go away little child you're disrupting this thread.
Terrorism is happening all across the world. Why Darfur and not Iraq? There were 23 reasons why we went into Iraq. Don't let the facts get in your way. Maybe some day we will go into Darfur, but now we are in Iraq.

As you can see, the useless efforts of negociating peace with terrorists by liberals are bringing the same results for the people of Darfur as they did for the people of Iraq before we went in, and ultimately the same results will be ours too...more innocent people oppressed, raped and murdered. In effect, the only peace you are negociating is your own, but only for a time, and at the expense of innocent people who are being oppressed, raped and murdered.

North Korea was not a threat until Clinton sold them nuclear technology to help finance his campain. But don't let that worry you, because Carter asked them to stop building nucear weapons and they said yes. In fact, Carter has the Nobel peace prize to prove it. With the nucear weapons that they don't have, they have grown more and more bold in defying everyone else.

While we are talking about Carter, it should be worth noting that all the problems we are currently facing in the middle east are a direct result of Carter handing Iraq over to the terrorists, in effect giving them their own country.... to save his peanut farm.

But you knew that too, because...you are so well informed. Tell men something, would you make a list of fallen soldiers if we went into Darfur as well? We already know the answer to that....hint: it doesn't fit your political agenda to do so. That's why your creating a post as if life is so important to you, that this war must stop is a complete and utter lie. You have a political ax to grind and don't mind using the names of the people of character who have died to protect the innocent to make your point.

But you keep complaining about how other people continue to clean up the mess that your failed ideology leaves us. Please continue spewing your nonsense that Professor (fill in the blank) has told you to believe, and turn a blind eye to those nasty facts that keep getting in the way. The term "useful idiot" is so appropriate.
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While we are talking about Carter, it should be worth noting that all the problems we are currently facing in the middle east are a direct result of Carter handing Iraq over to the terrorists, in effect giving them their own country.... to save his peanut farm.
Edit: meant to say Iran
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DoD Identifies Army Casualty

The Department of Defense announced today the death of a soldier who was supporting Operation Iraqi Freedom.

Sgt. Shaun P. Tousha, 30, of Hull, Texas, died April 9 in Baghdad, Iraq, from wounds suffered when his vehicle encountered an improvised explosive device. He was assigned to the 1st Battalion, 66th Armor Regiment, 1st Brigade Combat Team, 4th Infantry Division, Fort Hood, Texas.

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DoD Identifies Air Force Casualty

The Department of Defense announced today the death of an airman who was supporting Operation Iraqi Freedom.

Tech. Sgt Anthony L. Capra, 31, of Hanford, Calif., died April 9 near Golden Hills, Iraq, of wounds suffered when he encountered an improvised explosive device. He was assigned to Detachment 63, 688 Armament Systems Squadron, Indian Head City, Md.

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