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most from Iraq:

"WASHINGTON - Some 300,000 U.S. troops are suffering from major depression or post-traumatic stress from serving in the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, and 320,000 received brain injuries, a new study estimates."

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/24183188/
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Although this survey was only based on a sample of less than 2000 service men and women it appears to indicate a problem.

The study produces the 300,000 figure based on a rate of 19%, which puts the figure of US service men and women at 1.7 million served since 2003, yet the US Army figures show that only 513,000 members have served a tour of duty in Iraq / Aghanistan since that date.

Also the US national average shows an estimated 26.2 percent of Americans ages 18 and older — about one in four adults — suffer from a diagnosable mental disorder in a given year


http://www.iht.com/articles/2008/04/...s/military.php

http://www.nimh.nih.gov/health/publi...-america.shtml


The health, physical and mental of our service men and women should always be a high priority, both for the benifit of the efficient operation of that Army and the Country as these citizens will return into society.


It is a tough job fighting brutal terrorist - te kind of people that use disabled females suicide bombers against busy market places and against funneral or wedding parades.

They do a great job and are winning the war against these terrorist sc.um . Don't give up now.
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The study produces the 300,000 figure based on a rate of 19%, which puts the figure of US service men and women at 1.7 million served since 2003, yet the US Army figures show that only 513,000 members have served a tour of duty in Iraq / Aghanistan since that date.
Actually, your 513K figure is for Iraq only, according to the iht article. From the MSNBC article:

"The figure is based on Pentagon data showing over 1.6 million military personnel have deployed to the conflicts since the war in Afghanistan began in late 2001."

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Also the US national average shows an estimated 26.2 percent of Americans ages 18 and older — about one in four adults — suffer from a diagnosable mental disorder in a given year
...which includes things like OCD, Alzheimer's, social anxiety and pre-existing conditions like autism. Apples & oranges comparison when compared with otherwise healthy young men and women receiving brain injuries from war. 27% alone get PTSD, according to your iht study. This is a poor way to downplay the casualties.

""About 19 percent — or some 320,000 services members — reported that they experienced a possible traumatic brain injury while deployed. In wars where blasts from roadside bombs are prevalent, the injuries can range from mild concussions to severe head wounds."

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It is a tough job fighting brutal terrorist - te kind of people that use disabled females suicide bombers against busy market places and against funneral or wedding parades.
Yep, Bush brought that to Iraq.
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PTSS from a war - who'da thunk it.

Next great post: "Lots of US military equipment damaged in Iraq war".
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The problem is we spend millions of dollars to train or service men to kill other men and rationalize it. But then when seperation time comes, it's good luck in the real world soldier.

I've served my country, and in my opinion we should spend just as much money demilitarizing our personnel as we do on militarizing them. These men and women deserve our best because they gives us their best. But, I'm biased.
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The problem is we spend millions of dollars to train or service men to kill other men and rationalize it. But then when seperation time comes, it's good luck in the real world soldier.

I've served my country, and in my opinion we should spend just as much money demilitarizing our personnel as we do on militarizing them. These men and women deserve our best because they gives us their best. But, I'm biased.
I totally agree with you there. All possible care should be given to our brave service men and women for the duties they have performed.

But what I don't agree with is people that are trying to use these war campagne symptoms as some kind of reasoning that the war is wrong or even as a reason to bring our troops home.

"War is hell" as someone once said - but it is worth fighting this war - Iraq has been a great way of drawing out the terrorists.
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The problem is we spend millions of dollars to train or service men to kill other men and rationalize it. But then when seperation time comes, it's good luck in the real world soldier.

I've served my country, and in my opinion we should spend just as much money demilitarizing our personnel as we do on militarizing them. These men and women deserve our best because they gives us their best. But, I'm biased.
I have an Air Force Jody call from memory. Those who've served probably know what a Jody call is.
They’re All Wrong

A quick time Jody which is called by the flt/cc and repeated by the flight.

The Army says they lead the way
But we know they’re lying
Cause how’d they get there
When we’re the ones who are flying

Refrain:

Air Force(Shoot, shoot, shoot shoot, to kill)
Pilot(Shoot, shoot, shoot shoot, to kill)


The Marines say they’re first to fight
But we know they’re wrong
Cause who they shooting at
After we drop our bombs

Refrain

The Navy claims to be the best
But they can’t be right
Cause anywhere the problem is
We’ll always go to fight

Refrain

We claim there’s no one else
And we speak the truth
You’ll soon agree with us
When we come and save you

Refrain
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I have an Air Force Jody call from memory. Those who've served probably know what a Jody call is.
They’re All Wrong

A quick time Jody which is called by the flt/cc and repeated by the flight.

The Army says they lead the way
But we know they’re lying
Cause how’d they get there
When we’re the ones who are flying

Refrain:

Air Force(Shoot, shoot, shoot shoot, to kill)
Pilot(Shoot, shoot, shoot shoot, to kill)


The Marines say they’re first to fight
But we know they’re wrong
Cause who they shooting at
After we drop our bombs

Refrain

The Navy claims to be the best
But they can’t be right
Cause anywhere the problem is
We’ll always go to fight

Refrain

We claim there’s no one else
And we speak the truth
You’ll soon agree with us
When we come and save you

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You run PT to that? Oh wait you have to run PT to sing cadence. Nevermind

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Is it whiskey or is it wine?
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You run PT to that? Oh wait you have to run PT to sing cadence. Nevermind

Air Force, Air Force, I'm in doubt
Why your belly's are sticking out
Is it whiskey or is it wine?
Or is it lack of PT time?
Join up
Roll with us
1 mile
no good
2 miles
no good
3 miles
getting better
4 miles
breaking sweat
5 miles
breathing harder
6 miles
girl scouts
7 miles
boy scouts
8 miles
now we're talking
9 miles
almost there
10 miles
Marine Corps!
Ooh Rah!
Oh Yea!

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Marine ha ha.
your ass is being kicked by militia!
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Marine ha ha.
your ass is being kicked by militia!
Not even close. Militarily the enemy has no answer and if the libs would let us take off the gloves we could have this wrapped up by labor day.
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