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Old 05-11-2008, 11:10 AM
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I can see your from NC (no duh), so you don't know the half of it.
Care to explain?
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Old 05-11-2008, 11:17 AM
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Georgia was completely totaled, and our ancestors lost over $100,000,000 in property, back when a penny was a lot of money and you were rich if you had a dollar. North Carolina was mostly spared because of the geography of Northern Virginia which prevented a full scale invasion from that direction.
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Georgia was completely totaled, and our ancestors lost over $100,000,000 in property, back when a penny was a lot of money and you were rich if you had a dollar. North Carolina was mostly spared because of the geography of Northern Virginia which prevented a full scale invasion from that direction.
North Carolina was spared because it had a a fairly large part of the population was loyal to the Union. Sherman marched north from SC into NC; the terrain of Virginia had nothing to do with it.

Regarless, the fact that Sherman destroyed Georgia and SC broke the spirits of much of the army, leading to a quick defeat. And thats how you win a war: you make it so terrible that the other side lays down his guns and walks away.
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Old 05-11-2008, 11:31 AM
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North Carolina was spared because it had a a fairly large part of the population was loyal to the Union. Sherman marched north from SC into NC; the terrain of Virginia had nothing to do with it.

Regarless, the fact that Sherman destroyed Georgia and SC broke the spirits of much of the army, leading to a quick defeat.
NC did have the largest population of people in the Confederacy still loyal to the union, but the river layout in Virgina (the rivers mainly flowing from East to West) prevented Union forces from marching in from that direction as rivers posed serious obstacles to military forces at that time, especially if there is another force on the opposite side of the river. However, farther West the Mississippi River allowed the Union forces to easily sweep into the South. They then proceeded to march East from there to where much of the South's industry and people were located. Mostly, the geography of Virginia prevented Sherman from marching South from Maryland, which would have devastated much of Virginia and NC.
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NC did have the largest population of people in the Confederacy still loyal to the union, but the river layout in Virgina (the rivers mainly flowing from East to West) prevented Union forces from marching in from that direction as rivers posed serious obstacles to military forces at that time, especially if there is another force on the opposite side of the river. However, farther West the Mississippi River allowed the Union forces to easily sweep into the South. They then proceeded to march East from there to where much of the South's industry and people were located. Mostly, the geography of Virginia prevented Sherman from marching South from Maryland, which would have devastated much of Virginia and NC.
No it didn't. Lee and Grant were tied up in Virginia. Sherman made his march across the south after taking the railroad hub of Chattanooga. After marching to Savannah, he turned north and would have eventually came up behind Lee to reinforce Grant, if the war had lasted that long. He never had planned to come south trough Virgina. Sherman was the commander of the western army.

Either way, it's off point. The tactic was effective in helping to producing the Confederate surrender.
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No it didn't. Lee and Grant were tied up in Virginia. Sherman made his march across the south after taking the railroad hub of Chattanooga. After marching to Savannah, he turned north and would have eventually came up behind Lee to reinforce Grant, if the war had lasted that long. He never had planned to come south trough Virgina. Sherman was the commander of the western army.

Either way, it's off point. The tactic was effective in helping to producing the Confederate surrender.
I didn't necessarily mean that it would have been Sherman, but there was a reason they decided to go all the way around. Anyway, it doesn't really matter, and the tactic was effective.
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Invade a country.
Kill most of the men.
Install a new government.
Force the survivors to assimilate.


It's a tried and true method that we seem to have forgotten.
Here is an analogy to the way we are prosecuting the war in Iraq:

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Actually, Sherman showed how to do it in the Civil War. You destroy the infrastructure, the enemy's ability to feed and support themselves, and you make war so terrible that they lose their will to fight.
if we are engaged in a conventional war i am inclined to agree with you. not so much on the "war on terror"
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if we are engaged in a conventional war i am inclined to agree with you. not so much on the "war on terror"
It even works then, tho. It's just not us doing it.
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It even works then, tho. It's just not us doing it.
i missed you explaining to us what infrastructure you would destroy in the war on terror
maybe it would be easier for you to identify the infrastructure that would not be destroyed ... in which case explain to us how that action will help the population we are saying we are there to assist
or do you intend to kill them all and sort them out later?
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