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Tuesday, May 20, 2008 3:56 PM
By: Kenneth R. Timmerman As Barack Obama and John McCain thrash it out over how they would deal with Iran, voices from inside Iran are weighing in with an unusual message: If the United States strikes hard and fast, we will support you. http://www.newsmax.com/timmerman/ira.../20/97564.html I don't know who Kenneth Timmerman is, but I'm curious to people's opinions on this. Please spare me the "propganda" routine as well.
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Wow, that was a very enlightening article. I have always known that there was friction between the fundamentalists and the moderates but never at that level of government, and never that anyone in Iran could seriously support that.
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Interesting fact to remember, in the Iraq-Iran War after the initial failed Iraqi invasion, the Iranians were offered peace, the Ayatollah refused and launched his own offensive into Iraq. That invasion failed too, but it managed to 'energize the Revolution' and the people were filled with fervent patriotism against the invader, domestic opposition to the regime all but disappeared by those years of war.
The tactic of quelling internal dissent by using distraction of a foreign threat is actually an age-old fascist tactic, as Hermann Goring said “Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is to tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in any country.” Fact remaining, if any strikes come it will mean all the people rally around a political system and leader who has been loosing popularity anyways. Also, the only viable replacement for the Iranian government, the only group with the support and contacts, are the People's Mojahedin Organization of Iran, a Marxist-Islamic organization, not someone the US would wish anyways. Last edited by Andaras; 05-20-2008 at 07:37 PM. |
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This is silly theorizing.
How did you feel on 9/11? More than likely, it didn't affect you, personally. You might think the people in the buildings were spineless liberals, or capitalist oppressors. But, the feeling even the lunies got: We gotta kill some bastards, now. Attacking Iran will have a counterproductive effect on sentiments in the country. It would breed nationalism, they'll be in the streets waving their flags, and even those who are secular or progressive would rally around their leaders. Same as we did, when our country was attacked. The Iranian regime thrives on making us the bad guy. Bush/McCain's silent treatment is bad enough. But a bombing would galvanize the citizenry, and if there are people who don't hate us now, they'll be a lot more likely to do so then. Last edited by f0ca1; 05-20-2008 at 11:25 PM. |
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I don't understand why people think that bombs are going to make Iranians shake in their boots and automatically improve things. If they learned anything in Iraq, it's that we're terrible at formulating strategy past the initial invasion.
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Anyone who objectively follows what's going on in Iran knows that the Mullahs and the citizens share very different views. The citizens are enamored with western culture, and want to finally get out of the dark ages. They actually like America.
The Mullahs (much like the Democrats) desperately want total and unquestionable control over the masses, to the point that oppression and complete governmental force is the only way for them to keep their evil claws wrapped around their country's throat.
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