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WASHINGTON (AFP) - Maintaining US combat troops in Iraq "helps Al-Qaeda" and Washington should pull them from the ravaged country if it wants to see progress in the war on terror, former US anti-terror czar Richard Clarke said Tuesday.

"I think the best thing that we could do to hit Al-Qaeda's attractiveness to the Muslim world was in fact to get out of Iraq in an orderly way over the course of the next two or three years," Clarke said on CNN.

"Our being in Iraq helps Al-Qaeda," he added.

"We have to beat them in the ideological struggle. Getting out of Iraq will help that."
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I have two questions:
Firstly, what can that crackpot be thinking to make such idiotic statements?
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BIN LADEN: "I now address my speech to the whole of the Islamic nation: Listen and understand. The issue is big and the misfortune is momentous. The most important and serious issue today for the whole world is this Third World War, which the Crusader-Zionist coalition began against the Islamic nation. It is raging in the land of the two rivers. The world's millstone and pillar is in Baghdad, the capital of the caliphate."

Yes lets just leave.

I think Clarke should read up on current events.AQ is being driven out of Iraq now primarily by Iraqis ,whos welocme theyve worn out a long time ago by being the number one killer of innocent Muslim civilians in Iraq.This anti AQ sentiment is hardly confined to Iraq however.AQ has been dealt many blows and many have been self inflicted.Clarke is proving himself more and more irrelevant with every word he spouts.AQ continues to isolate themselves with their Muslim on Muslim murder.
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This article merely sources more irrational conclusions from the man on whose watch Osama Bin Laden settled 20 terrorists into US Flight schools, who made it clear that they only wanted to fly and hand no interests in learning how to LAND!

Now he concludes that the US present on the battle field is a win for the enemies of the United States. I say keep him talking, like his former boss, every time he opens his mouth he makes it clear he's not a person who should be taken seriously.
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Ladies and gentleman, Let me first start off by saying there is no Al Qaeda in Iraq! There is no Group of people standing out in the street saying "We are Al Qaeda in Iraq". If the only proof of there existence is from my Government then I have to reject the notion even further. This is a Shiite and sunnie issue; always has been. We deposed the stronger or controlling group and now have a group that was in the minority in the majority now! Placing the label of Al Qaeda in Iraq is just a PR stunt to further capture the Hearts and minds of those who want us to fight against the terrible monsters that attacked us on 911. How can anyone discern who's who in Iraq? They can’t! I will not fall victim to this Bull $@#! Argument; Point Blank! Are involvement in an Occupation is making Al Qaeda stronger. The Hated America on display for the entire world to see has turned more people and extremist against us. It has grown the terrorist ranks and emboldened a generation to teach their children that we are the supreme evil in the world; I don’t agree with that last part, but how do you influence the lessons being taught to the world?

The Neo-con will say “By not surrendering and Killing all those Al Qaeda, Islamofacist, 911 Bin-laden followers" Yeah have fun picking them out of a croud!

The Leftist say “Who is Al Qaeda and how do we know the guy we imprisoned for 6 years is actually a terrorist?" what does it matter , lets just label everyone Al quaeda and that problem is all solved!

Neo-con: Shoot first and blame someone else later.

Leftist: Don’t shoot and get killed and have his family sue people not responsible

What wacky deceitful world we live in!

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I see, you take Sunni insurgents and place them under the control of an individual who is sympathetic to Al Qaeda; now you have al Qaeda in Iraq! Thanks for the insight! Thanks for the attitude adjustment. What was I thinking?
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Ladies and gentleman, Let me first start off by saying there is no Al Qaeda in Iraq! There is no Group of people standing out in the street saying "We are Al Qaeda in Iraq". If the only proof of there existence is from my Government then I have to reject the notion even further. This is a Shiite and sunnie issue; always has been. We deposed the stronger or controlling group and now have a group that was in the minority in the majority now! Placing the label of Al Qaeda in Iraq is just a PR stunt to further capture the Hearts and minds of those who want us to fight against the terrible monsters that attacked us on 911. How can anyone discern who's who in Iraq? They can’t! I will not fall victim to this Bull $@#! Argument; Point Blank! Are involvement in an Occupation is making Al Qaeda stronger. The Hated America on display for the entire world to see has turned more people and extremist against us. It has grown the terrorist ranks and emboldened a generation to teach their children that we are the supreme evil in the world; I don’t agree with that last part, but how do you influence the lessons being taught to the world?

The Neo-con will say “By not surrendering and Killing all those Al Qaeda, Islamofacist, 911 Bin-laden followers" Yeah have fun picking them out of a croud!

The Leftist say “Who is Al Qaeda and how do we know the guy we imprisoned for 6 years is actually a terrorist?" what does it matter , lets just label everyone Al quaeda and that problem is all solved!

Neo-con: Shoot first and blame someone else later.

Leftist: Don’t shoot and get killed and have his family sue people not responsible

What wacky deceitful world we live in!

Honestly, F@#$ The world and concentrate on America! Fix our country and secure it and to hell with the rest of the wor

Did the mafia wear signs? Of course not. The fact is there are more people furious with AQ affiliated movements in Iraq than there are those who are sympathetic.Therefore these people who are local have the ability to find out whos causing the trouble,storing the arms,planting the bombs,etc and tell the proper authorities.How do you think they do it?

Please remember the Sunnis chasing AQ now used to be thier allies,Id say they know what constitutes AQI and what the hierarchy might be than you.These arent ragheads running around randomly killing folks,they have a definite structure and chain of command with plenty of trails and evidence leading to AQ.

Its scary how horribly ignorant you are concerning this subject.
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