Then "Many" should have voted against the war by electing a different president, or voted for a congress willing to defund it.

They've had numerous opportunities to stop it.



I disagree that 5 years and $500 billion alone would have been sufficient to stop Saddam from developing nukes eventually.



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Exactly. To say we are "winning" is therefore accurate.

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Not by my definition; maybe by yours.

venom? where? what you were seeing was no more than tired cynicism, something brought about by 5 years of soundbites which look much like what you wrote. You'll excuse me if I don't woop for soundbite 7567.

Good one SS!

First, this it not a war but an occupation. The war was over in a few weeks: remember 'mission accomplished". The American people still think the 'war' was a mistake, God bless them, but in fact it was simply a naked attempt to take over the Iraqi oil. Not a mistake, but a strategy.

I had a good discussion with an Army CPT, who is on R-n-R leave from Iraq. He owns battlespace north of Baghdad and said, "the AQ guys are all but gone...unfortunately a lot of them ran away, but some joined SOI; so now they are helping us. We are back to dealing with local farmers that "do insurgent stuff on the side" like back in '03." Good news, but still work to be done.
He mentioned that his dealings with Iraqi officials at the local level aren't going as well. He said, just like 03-07, the local governments are fledgling and aren't capable of functioning. Basically, it seems that we should be satisfied with Arab politics and call it good enough.

the truth can only be hidden for so long. we are winning the war in iraq, we are winning the WOT. Bush is a great President and has made this country much safer.

Praise W and our troops

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I just threw up a little.

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