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Old 06-11-2008, 03:05 PM
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Forgive me, I thought it was the president's job to run the country,
I should have specified: you people as represented in congress.

They were the ones who set the priority of Clinton's dippings over threats to national security.

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No, it's your fault that the country focused on cigar dipping instead of terrorism.



This seems to be your fallacious tactic in every debate: Build a strawman.

Still waiting to hear your evidence that Al Gore is a terrorist.



Clinton is responsible for his personal indiscretions. It was no worse than McCain/Iseman.

You people are responsible for dragging them into the public for two years, two years where we should have been focusing on Al Qaeda.

And, who was Clinton going after with those bombs? Oh, right, nobody important, just Bin Laden.

he was "wagging the dog," remember?

But, that bombing was unacceptable to you people because it was much better, politically, to focus on clinton's schlong.

Why Bush didn't do anything, at all, to stop 9/11 is beyond speculation.

I believe we should focus on destroying terrorists, not spreading the ideology, as Bush has done in Iraq.
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Congressional Record: September 26, 2002 (Senate)
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HOMELAND SECURITY

In September 1998, the Intelligence Community obtained information that Usama Bin Laden's next operation could involve flying an aircraft loaded with explosives into a U.S. airport and detonating it; this information was provided to senior U.S. Government officials in late 1998.

In the fall of 1998, the Intelligence Community received additional information concerning a Bin-Laden plot involving aircraft in the New York and Washington, DC, areas;

In November 1998, the Intelligence Community learned that a Bin Laden was attempting to recruit a group of five to seven young men from the United States to strike U.S. domestic targets.

In the spring of 1999, the Intelligence Community learned about a planned Bin Laden attack on a U.S. Government facility in Washington, DC.

Additionally, in 1999, the threat of an explosive-laden aircraft being used in a suicide attack against the Pentagon, CIA headquarters, or the White House, was noted in a Library of Congress report to the National Intelligence Council.

In late 1999, the Intelligence Community learned of Bin Laden's possible plans to attack targets in Washington, DC, and New York City during the New Year's Millennium celebrations.

On December 14, 1999, an individual named Ahmed Ressam was arrested as he attempted to enter the United States from Canada with detonator materials in his car. Ressam's intended target was Los Angeles International Airport. Ressam, who has links to Usama Bin Laden's terrorist network, has not been formally sentenced yet.

In March 2000, the Intelligence Community obtained information regarding the types of targets that operatives in Bin Laden's network might strike. The Statue of Liberty was specifically mentioned, as were skyscrapers, ports, and airports, and nuclear power plants;}

http://www.fas.org/irp/congress/2002_cr/s092602.html
4 actual attacks on Americans overseas, 8 credible threats to attack U.S. soil even specifying airliners and the eventual targets, how much more did the Clinton administration need to pull their heads out of their collective behinds? This went on over the course of both of his terms, 1993 - 2001. Then after 9/11 they all jump around saying they didn't do it, they did everything they could (Name one). Able Danger even knew who three of the 9/11 hijackers were in spring of 2000. Funny how they knew the name of Mohammed Atta two days after 9/11. Clinton walked away as 3000 people died because of his abject dereliction of duty to do ANYTHING but pleasure himself with interns, now THAT is disgraceful!

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September 13, 2001 Posted: 11:53 PM EDT (0353 GMT)

WASHINGTON (CNN) -- Federal investigators believe they know the names of the some of those involved in commandeering two airliners out of Boston Tuesday and steered them into the twin towers of the World Trade Center in New York, sources told CNN Wednesday.

Information found in another rental car left in Boston's Logan Airport -- where two of the hijacked flights originated -- led investigators to two more men who were pilots: Mohammed Atta and Marwan Yousef Alshehhii.

Police issued a lookout alert for two cars -- a 1989 two-door red Pontiac with the license plate D79-DDV or DVD and a four-door Oldsmobile with the license plate VEP-54N. A vehicle registration record obtained by CNN showed the Pontiac was registered to Atta.

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Let me get this straight, Atta rents a car instead of driving one of his own two cream puff cars. He would only do that in attempt to hide his identity, then he leaves incriminating papers in the car????? Is anyone else buying that?
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Old 06-11-2008, 03:14 PM
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Clinton walked away as 3000 people died because of his abject dereliction of duty to do ANYTHING
He tried to kill Bin Laden. But Republicans wanted to focus on his wang.

What did Bush do, in the face of all of this?
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He tried to kill Bin Laden. But Republicans wanted to focus on his wang.

What did Bush do, in the face of all of this?
Really? Why then did Albright send advanced warning of the strike to terrorist camps in Afghanistan to Pakistan? They had to know Pakistani sympathizers would notify Uncle Bin. How naive did they have too be to do that. Yep our pals the Pakistanis and the Big Dummy Democrats.

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That was the Clinton administration ALL the way. If Clinton had only used his head, the one on his shoulders, Bin Laden may well have ended up dead and 9/11.....ah never mind.
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If Clinton had only used his head, the one on his shoulders, Bin Laden may well have ended up dead and 9/11.....ah never mind.
What did Bush do to stop it?
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I agree. Until I know more, I have to believe it's a horrible wartime accident.
Pakistani's in the region report deaths of locals as well as Pakistani soldiers. Judging by the precision of artillery and airstrikes the Pakistani soldiers might've been helping the 'insurgents' because why would we target an area that has Pakistani soldiers in it if the area had been shooting at coalition forces? Instantly I think of Pakistani's aiding the insurgents before friendly fire.....
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What did Bush do to stop it?

What could he do in 8 months that Clinton couldn't do in 2 and a half years?
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It's good to know we treat our "allies" with respect.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/06/12/wo...2pstan.html?hp
Perhaps in your ZEST to demonize America......perhaps you MISSED this:

"Before the airstrike, a Pentagon official said, American forces alerted a Pakistani military liaison officer, trying to ensure that friendly troops were out of harm’s way. But the Pakistani officer was either unaware that Pakistani paramilitary forces had moved into the area near the insurgents, or the Pakistani forces never got the word to get out of the way, American officials said."


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What did Bush do to stop it?

What could he do in 8 months that Clinton couldn't do in 2 and a half years?
Dems expected NOTHING from Bill Clinton.....but yet expected Bush to stop the plan after only 232 days in office and when his team wasn't even all in place yet.....DUE TO THE COUNTS AND RECOUNTS BY THE DEMOCRAT PARTY WHO COULDN'T ADMIT DEFEAT THE YEAR BEFORE!!!

Bill Clinton let us down because he spent more time having late night phone sex and liasons in the oval office than he did on national security and the threat of al Qaeda. Then the Democrat party let the country down by NOT admitting defeat and preventing Bush from getting his appointment in place. When Jumping Jim Jeffords handed the Democrats the Majority in May of 2001, the Democrats said there would be "no more" power sharing and efforts to get along. They slow-walked his nominees and appointments at that time because they were still TOO BITTER to admit their defeat and were acting like the babies they are. And so---they let the country down at a time of intense national security threats that they KNEW about!!!
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Perhaps in your ZEST to demonize America.
Perhaps in your zest to complete a sentence.

Obviously, it wasn't done on purpose. But, I suspect our "allies" won't be as forgiving as you or me.
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