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Old 06-22-2008, 06:49 AM
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Soldiers killed in Afghan blasts
A soldier stands guard in Kandahar province
Kandahar is a key battleground of the current rebel insurgency

Five foreign soldiers have died in two bomb attacks in Afghanistan.

Four US-led troops were killed by a roadside bomb in the southern province of Kandahar, and a Polish soldier died in an attack in the south-east.

The deaths bring to 17 the number of coalition soldiers killed in Afghanistan over the past two weeks.

June has been one of the deadliest months for Western forces since they began military operations against the Taleban in 2002.

The nationalities of the soldiers who died in the incident in Kandahar were not immediately known. Two other soldiers were seriously wounded in the attack.


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Some 14,000 soldiers serve in the US-led coalition in Afghanistan, mainly involved in operations against Taleban and al-Qaeda militants.

The Polish soldier died in Paktika province when a bomb exploded under a patrol vehicle. Four other Polish troops were injured.

They are members of the separate, 50,000-strong Nato force in the country.

Deadly month

Earlier this week Nato and Afghan forces said they had driven many Taleban fighters from the area during a major offensive in Kandahar province.

The operation was in response to a jailbreak staged by the Taleban from Kandahar prison earlier this month, during which at least 350 insurgents were freed.

Kandahar is one of the key battlegrounds of the current rebel insurgency against Afghanistan's government and troops from Nato and a US-led coalition.

Afghan officials say 56 Taleban and two Afghan troops died in the fighting on Thursday, in Arghandab district near Kandahar city, but there was no independent confirmation.

The latest incident comes a day after two other US-led soldiers were killed in separate attacks elsewhere in the country.

Nine British servicemen have also been killed since the start of June.

The BBC's Martin Patience in Kabul says that in recent months the Taleban have switched their tactics using roadside bombs and suicide attacks to increasingly deadly effect.
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Let's pull out of Afghanistan.
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A soldier stands guard in Kandahar province
Kandahar is a key battleground of the current rebel insurgency
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Well, by your logic, we should also pull out of DC, I mean it's not even a State, it's just a district. Such Violence, all those death's, for WHAT? D.C., It's a lost cause, we should just pull out now.
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Soldiers killed in Afghan blasts
A soldier stands guard in Kandahar province
Kandahar is a key battleground of the current rebel insurgency

Five foreign soldiers have died in two bomb attacks in Afghanistan.

Four US-led troops were killed by a roadside bomb in the southern province of Kandahar, and a Polish soldier died in an attack in the south-east.

The deaths bring to 17 the number of coalition soldiers killed in Afghanistan over the past two weeks.

June has been one of the deadliest months for Western forces since they began military operations against the Taleban in 2002.

The nationalities of the soldiers who died in the incident in Kandahar were not immediately known. Two other soldiers were seriously wounded in the attack.


Arghandab map

Valley of crucial importance
Voices from Kandahar conflict

Some 14,000 soldiers serve in the US-led coalition in Afghanistan, mainly involved in operations against Taleban and al-Qaeda militants.

The Polish soldier died in Paktika province when a bomb exploded under a patrol vehicle. Four other Polish troops were injured.

They are members of the separate, 50,000-strong Nato force in the country.

Deadly month

Earlier this week Nato and Afghan forces said they had driven many Taleban fighters from the area during a major offensive in Kandahar province.

The operation was in response to a jailbreak staged by the Taleban from Kandahar prison earlier this month, during which at least 350 insurgents were freed.

Kandahar is one of the key battlegrounds of the current rebel insurgency against Afghanistan's government and troops from Nato and a US-led coalition.

Afghan officials say 56 Taleban and two Afghan troops died in the fighting on Thursday, in Arghandab district near Kandahar city, but there was no independent confirmation.

The latest incident comes a day after two other US-led soldiers were killed in separate attacks elsewhere in the country.

Nine British servicemen have also been killed since the start of June.

The BBC's Martin Patience in Kabul says that in recent months the Taleban have switched their tactics using roadside bombs and suicide attacks to increasingly deadly effect.
Carnage without context? Ohhh your politisizing our dead? Please dont do that. We signed up to fight there. Not to be politisized by the left. Thats why we dont vote for democrats. Let us do our job!
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I hate when people politicize the deaths of soldiers. The US military is all volunteer. They signed up to do this. It is tragic whenever a soldier is killed so don't sully their deaths by trying to use them for political purposes. You don't know them, maybe they really felt that they were doing the right thing by being there.

Also, from the moment the Taliban were ousted from power, Afghanistan became a better place than it had been for the past few decades.
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Also, from the moment the Taliban were ousted from power, Afghanistan became a better place than it had been for the past few decades.
Actually, Afghanistan was very stable under the Taliban.

The Taliban had almost totally united the country and had the popular backing of the people.

Now because of the invasion, Afghanistain has decended into chaos.
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The Taliban's restrictions on women created major human rights problems for close to 100,000 families that were headed by widows. When the Taliban invaded Mazar-e-Sharif in 1997 the people rose up against them and drove them out. The Taliban were responsible for three separate massacres of Hazaras the first at Mazar-e-Sharif in August 1998, the second at Robatak Pass in May 2000, and the third at Yakaolang in January 2001. They beat men for shaving and women for not wearing their burqa properly. Many of the rules that the Taliban made had no basis in the Qu'ran or sharia which caused a lot of complaints from Afghans. The Taliban also destroyed the fertile Shamali plains which further increased the food shortage.

Only 42% of Afghanistan is Pashtun and forcing the non-Pashtuns out of government offices did not garner any support from the other ethnic groups that make up Afghanistan. Many felt that the Taliban were an occupying force.

Most Afghans were reliant on international organizations for food and other supplies during the Taliban rule. The Taliban did not provide for most of their people.
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The Taliban were having a difficult time because of the international communities negligence and the CIA's backing of insurgents against the Taliban government.

The Taliban had eradicated the poppy fields. And this made several Western governments upset, including the USA's intelligent agencys that sell drugs to fund their clandestine activities.
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Actually, Afghanistan was very stable under the Taliban.

The Taliban had almost totally united the country and had the popular backing of the people.

Now because of the invasion, Afghanistain has decended into chaos.
Yup. And between 1933 and 1941, Germany was "very stable" under Hitler (PBOH).
Stable that is unless you were Jewish, Gay, Gypsy, Polish, French, Russian, Lithuanian, Arab (Oh wait! The Arabs collaborated with Hitler - strike that one please).

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