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Old 04-09-2004, 02:58 AM
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Default Final solution

i watched some american commander in the field the other night saying that
if people get in the road and are killed that it is thier own fault.
Also he stated that if enemy fire comes from a {Holy site} it loses it's status
and will be attacked.Taking this stand reminded me of a few post's seen on
this forum where people have expresse the opinion that nuke bombs dropped on Japan saved many more lives than would have been lost if america had invaded.Therefore why dont we as a progressive western society simply nuke Iraq and let this stand as a warning to all other rogue states.Think of the live's that will be saved,and though the Iraqi's may not appreciate it at first they will eventually realise it was for thier own good.
Any takers for this simple yet subtle American Solution/Tradition!
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Old 04-09-2004, 04:38 AM
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Default re: Final Stupidity

I realize that your comment was deeply tongue in cheek, but unfortunately it is still very stupid in spite of that fact. The commander is referring to the fact that when a fire fight breaks out, you don't have any choice but to return fire. If you are a civilian, and you don't head for cover ASAP; or if you are an attacker using a mosque as cover, you get what you deserve.

The U.S. dropped the atomic bombs on Japan after Truman was shown an estimate of 1.25 million american casualties in a convential invasion and conquest of Japan. If the Iraqis were by some stretch of fate capable of inflicting such casualties, I would nuke away, but of course the United States is in no danger of suffering more than a few thousand casualties in Iraq.

This may be a war of liberation, but it's still a war and people should remember that fact. I guess the learning curve is steeper for some people than it is for others
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Old 04-09-2004, 04:53 AM
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I realize that your comment was deeply tongue in cheek, but unfortunately it is still very stupid in spite of that fact. The commander is referring to the fact that when a fire fight breaks out, you don't have any choice but to return fire. If you are a civilian, and you don't head for cover ASAP; or if you are an attacker using a mosque as cover, you get what you deserve.

The U.S. dropped the atomic bombs on Japan after Truman was shown an estimate of 1.25 million american casualties in a convential invasion and conquest of Japan. If the Iraqis were by some stretch of fate capable of inflicting such casualties, I would nuke away, but of course the United States is in no danger of suffering more than a few thousand casualties in Iraq.

This may be a war of liberation, but it's still a war and people should remember that fact. I guess the learning curve is steeper for some people than it is for others
Yes, it was tongue in cheek, obviously, and nothing in your post lends support to the judgement that it was nonetheless stupid. In fact, the sarcasm was to make exactly the same point you did, essentially. So one wonders who is stupid here.

Truman as lied to. But irregardless of that, it doesn't explain Nagasaki. People treat that historical sequence as if it was one act. It wasn't. And all the justifications (false as they may be) only focus on Hiroshima.

You can never understand your country and, indeed, you can never truly love your country as long as you insist on wearing blinders and living in fantasies about good guys and bad guys. Time for some to grow up.
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