You been small banned once , are you trying for the big " B " ...

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Where did you even get this idea?

This is honestly the first time ive ever heard anyone say that the old empires should pay reparations in the form of immigration.

Is this what you people down there really think or just you? And do you realize how impossible the whole idea is? The commonwealth consists mainly of poor countries with hundreds of millions of the worlds poorest people in it. If given the chance to work, or get welfare, in britain they will take that opportunity. Even if we disregard the fact that brits would have to destroy their welfare system entirely it would still drive down wages for low educated workers. The british government has an obligation to protect its poorest from competition like that. And if they dont, like they arent right now, the poor vote for bnp and then arrogant (*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)bags on political forums get to call them racists.

Small banned? I don't understand

Britanns and other west europeans will be in big (*)(*)(*)(*) affrer ~50 years with her liberalism and political correctly against muslim immigrants...

I'm more inclined to think the UK is PC for muslims, Tofiks...just as we are for Poles, Sikhs, Jews etc. There appears to be a tendency in my country to form policy around those who shout loudest........and pressure groups rarely spring up out of the majority of contented people, but from those with an agenda to pursue.

Those who daemonise muslims/immigrants have their own reasons for doing so..such as the BNP and UKIP looking to enter mainstram politics........or the "can work, won't work" element dragging up excuses for why they are claiming the dole.

I do think that immigration needs to be controlled...not to keep certain people of specific religions/races/colours out, but so that Britain doesn't sink under the combined weight of incomers and current British citizens.

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I'm not sure its not divide and conquer!
For instance, why should you have a black fireman or police union?
Or black what ever?
If its fair and impartial, its one union for all!
Why should I be excluded from black unions? Would that not be racism?
Those that shout the loudest are the ones allowed at that time to be used against another fraction of the community in that period of time!
As for immigration, it suits those higher echelons of society, cheap labour and a scape goat whenever one is needed.

Though I do believe as in Scotland, if there is someone unemployed and there is work, that local person should have first option. Why should we pay for cheap labour for the various exploiting businesses.
Why should the likes of Highland Council one of the biggest employers pay subsistence and mortgages for senior and not so senior civil servants coming up to fill positions in the highlands from the south of England!
And that was stated to me by an HR manager who was English and from the Highland Council!
I know of one Polish woman, who was given £3000.00 plus in DSS payments just before Christmas. For her family in Poland! That cannot be right!

Or the hundred of thousands Highland Council budget, paid yearly for immigrants to get English lessons at night school, transportation be it taxi or public transport paid for, by the council, Course fees paid for by the Council, and Babysitting services, paid for by the Council! They can even get expenses!

And they don't turn up!

No the system is wrong, and it needs changed!

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Highlander

PC is stupid, expect the same of all people, same laws for all people, same consequences for all people, there is no need to appoint a black police leader above a white one, unless he is simply suited better then the white one

the best guy for the job, ( or woman)

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Why shouldn't you have a black fireman or police union as long as black firemen/police perceive that the other options ignore their concerns? It will take a genuinely fair and impartial.........and competent....union to achieve real integration in the workplace.........and there ain't that many competent unions.

When I was working, I'd have been ecstatic to have had the option of a union which actually gave as much weight to the concerns of those marginalised members such as myself, rather than preen because they "acquired" concessions for the pregnant/workers with families slightly better than the law already allowed. Decent employment practices and pay rises would have been good as well.

I agree the system is wrong and needs changed..........but the system was not put in place by the immigrants or the employers........they are simply taking advantage of a setup, which is ludicrous in the extreme, put in place over years by successive governments..so why take it out on the immigrants?

After all, if the UK were not such patsies, why would asylum seekers be bypassing all the European countries in which they can be safe from persecution to reach the UK?

Good luck in getting native Brits (or anyone else) with families, but no self respect, to take the lower paid jobs in a system which actually pays you to have children to the extent that you can be a lot better off not working at all. It has little to do with the level of wages...........it has more to do with the level of benefits predicated on the concept of "relative" poverty which no longer encourages individuals to support their own families.

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"BE NICE TO AMERICA OR WE'LL BRING DEMOCRACY TO YOUR COUNTRY"....a US bumper-sticker warning!

Mm.... I have always been a member of a union... some unions have been a waste of time. But thats mostly because of the members!

The American management tool, give employees everything and take everything back off them one at a time!
Make change, stop, make change, stop.
Continual change until you get exactly what you want to give the nation/workforce!
This process, we have been going through since 1979!
If wages are so low, and minimum wages are so low what's the point of working when your worse off!
But remember if they remove the safety net of immigrants, you also remove the safety-net for your family!
Increase Minimum wages to remove the bureaucracy of family tax credit(Jobs for the boys)!
The options would then be work and pay your way! Which wouldn't mean any detriment to your family and the ability to pay your way!
It's only a matter of time before the National health service will be so marginalised it will collapse!
DSS for those requiring long time care, will be removed!
It will quickly get back to the early 1900's when people will starve!
Well that's my long term synopsis considering the previous and current political position in the UK by Tory and Labour!

regards
highlander

don't you have a system where family payments are payable to workers as well as welfare recipients, and are dependant on income regardless of source?

if you have a good system which ensures you don't "double tax" through means testing and taxation combined,(and loss of housing subsidy) it can encourage people to participate in the labour market, even with low income jobs, while still seeing an improvement in disposable income.

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