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Geez. It's getting really annoying that the Western European subforum is getting polluted by this bs. Yes, I said "polluted" - you are entitled to have your opinion but just post in the right sub forums like "Ethnic or Religious conflicts" (which you believe this is) , 'Religion' or 'Immigration'. Because this is just getting frekking ridiculous.
Go living on the Artic or Antartica if you never want to meet people with other beliefs.
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Could the OP have quoted a more biased source?

Come on, I don't believe a word of it, and no intelligent person would.
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Adapted from Dr. Peter Hammond's book: Slavery, Terrorism and Islam: The Historical Roots and Contemporary Threat

Islam is not a religion, nor is it a cult. In its fullest form, it is a complete, total, 100% system of life.

Islam has religious, legal, political, economic, social, and military components. The religious component is a beard for all of the other components.

Islamization begins when there are sufficient Muslims in a country to agitate for their religious privileges.

When politically correct, tolerant, and culturally diverse societies agree to Muslim demands for their religious privileges, some of the other components tend to creep in as well.

Once again the truth hurts for those islamic apologists, well done.

Here's how it works:

As long as the Muslim population remains around or under 2% in any given country, they will be for the most part be regarded as a peace-loving minority, and not as a threat to other citizens. This is the case in:

United States -- Muslim 0.6%
Australia -- Muslim 1.5%
Canada -- Muslim 1.9%
China -- Muslim 1.8%
Italy -- Muslim 1.5%
Norway -- Muslim 1.8%

At 2% to 5%, they begin to proselytize from other ethnic minorities and disaffected groups, often with major recruiting from the jails and among street gangs. This is happening in:

Denmark -- Muslim 2%
Germany -- Muslim 3.7%
United Kingdom -- Muslim 2.7%
Spain -- Muslim 4%
Thailand -- Muslim 4.6%

From 5% on, they exercise an inordinate influence in proportion to their percentage of the population. For example, they will push for the introduction of halal (clean by Islamic standards) food, thereby securing food preparation jobs for Muslims. They will increase pressure on supermarket chains to feature halal on their shelves -- along with threats for failure to comply. This is occurring in:

France -- Muslim 8%
Philippines -- 5%
Sweden -- Muslim 5%
Switzerland -- Muslim 4.3%
The Netherlands -- Muslim 5.5%
Trinidad & Tobago -- Muslim 5.8%

At this point, they will work to get the ruling government to allow them to rule themselves (within their ghettos) under Sharia, the Islamic Law. The ultimate goal of Islamists is to establish Sharia law over the entire world.

When Muslims approach 10% of the population, they tend to increase lawlessness as a means of complaint about their conditions. In Paris , we are already seeing car-burnings. Any non-Muslim action offends Islam and results in uprisings and threats, such as in Amsterdam , with opposition to Mohammed cartoons and films about Islam. Such tensions are seen daily, particularly in Muslim sections in:

Guyana -- Muslim 10%
India -- Muslim 13.4%
Israel -- Muslim 16%
Kenya -- Muslim 10%
Russia -- Muslim 15%

After reaching 20%, nations can expect hair-trigger rioting, jihad militia formations, sporadic killings, and the burnings of Christian churches and Jewish synagogues, such as in:

Ethiopia -- Muslim 32.8%

At 40%, nations experience widespread massacres, chronic terror attacks, and ongoing militia warfare, such as in:

Bosnia -- Muslim 40%
Chad -- Muslim 53.1%
Lebanon -- Muslim 59.7%

From 60%, nations experience unfettered persecution of non-believers of all other religions (including non-conforming Muslims), sporadic ethnic cleansing (genocide), use of Sharia Law as a weapon, and Jizya, the tax placed on infidels, such as in:

Albania -- Muslim 70%
Malaysia -- Muslim 60.4%
Qatar -- Muslim 77..5%
Sudan -- Muslim 70%

After 80%, expect daily intimidation and violent jihad, some State-run ethnic cleansing, and even some genocide, as these nations drive out the infidels, and move toward 100% Muslim, such as has been experienced and in some ways is on-going in:

Bangladesh -- Muslim 83%
Egypt -- Muslim 90%
Gaza -- Muslim 98.7%
Indonesia -- Muslim 86.1%
Iran -- Muslim 98%
Iraq -- Muslim 97%
Jordan -- Muslim 92%
Morocco -- Muslim 98.7%
Pakistan -- Muslim 97%
Palestine -- Muslim 99%
Syria -- Muslim 90%
Tajikistan -- Muslim 90%
Turkey -- Muslim 99.8%
United Arab Emirates -- Muslim 96%

100% will usher in the peace of 'Dar-es-Salaam' -- the Islamic House of Peace. Here there's supposed to be peace, because everybody is a Muslim, the Madrasses are the only schools, and the Koran is the only word, such as in:

Afghanistan -- Muslim 100%
Saudi Arabia -- Muslim 100%
Somalia -- Muslim 100%
Yemen -- Muslim 100%

Unfortunately, peace is never achieved, as in these 100% states the most radical Muslims intimidate and spew hatred, and satisfy their blood lust by killing less radical Muslims, for a variety of reasons.

'Before I was nine I had learned the basic canon of Arab life. It was me against my brother; me and my brother against our father; my family against my cousins and the clan; the clan against the tribe; the tribe against the world, and all of us against the infidel. -- Leon Uris, 'The Haj'

It is important to understand that in some countries, with well under 100% Muslim populations, such as France, the minority Muslim populations live in ghettos, within which they are 100% Muslim, and within which they live by Sharia Law. The national police do not even enter these ghettos. There are no national courts, nor schools, nor non-Muslim religious facilities. In such situations, Muslims do not integrate into the community at large. The children attend madrases.
They learn only the Koran. To even associate with an infidel is a crime punishable with death. Therefore, in some areas of certain nations, Muslim Imams and extremists exercise more power than the national average would indicate.

Today's 1.5 billion Muslims make up 22% of the world's population. But their birth rates dwarf the birth rates of Christians, Hindus, Buddhists, Jews, and all other believers. Muslims will exceed 50% of the world's population by the end of this century.

Adapted from Dr. Peter Hammond's book: Slavery, Terrorism and Islam: The Historical Roots and Contemporary Threat.

Please forward this important information to any who care about the future of our respective countries.

Is and Islamic future good for Europe?
Very good post.

Yes ofcourse people are attacking the source but hey, that is what I do when people are saying that the Islam is a religion of peace or when they bring up people claiming that the West is imperialistic.

Lots of those people attacking your source have no problems linking to John Pilger or other idiotic sources about how imperialistic and evil the West is but are blind for how imperialistic and evil the Islam is.

Again the truth hurts for those islamic apologists.
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Geez. It's getting really annoying that the Western European subforum is getting polluted by this bs. Yes, I said "polluted" - you are entitled to have your opinion but just post in the right sub forums like "Ethnic or Religious conflicts" (which you believe this is) , 'Religion' or 'Immigration'. Because this is just getting frekking ridiculous.
Go living on the Artic or Antartica if you never want to meet people with other beliefs.
Why dont you go live there because you are not willing to stand up for your own country.

Belgium, what a nice place it is becoming


Your words about ''polluting'' dont mean anything because you dont even see how poluted your own country is, be carefull what you ask for because you might get it.
The islam is already boss in parts of Belgium and there is nothing you did about it, even now you are not willing to stand up against it and look what is happening to your country.
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Incredible how much rabid Islam-haters know about other countries. Now Belgium is supposedly overrun with muslims, and how often havn't I been told that my native Denmark is two seconds away from Sharia-law! Personally, I havn't the faintest idea where people see these things. It's really easy to see something if you really want to, and it's even easier to see it in every other country.
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Incredible how much rabid Islam-haters know about other countries. Now Belgium is supposedly overrun with muslims, and how often havn't I been told that my native Denmark is two seconds away from Sharia-law! Personally, I havn't the faintest idea where people see these things. It's really easy to see something if you really want to, and it's even easier to see it in every other country.
Yeah, yeah, I live next to Belgium, I have been there and seen it myself and my own country also has its own share of problems with islamic culture.I also visited those areas in Germany just to know what I am talking about.

If you stay at home behind your computer then you dont see those things, just get into your car and drive to those places and you will see them ofcourse. Dont forget your camera, bring your wife without headscarf, ask critical questions and good luck.

Incredible how fast some people judge others for islam haters and not go out and look at what we are talking about. You think we invent everything and made those videos in our basements? Unbelievable.
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If you stay at home behind your computer then you dont see those things, just get into your car and drive to those places and you will see them ofcourse. Dont forget your camera, bring your wife without headscarf, ask critical questions and good luck.
Anytime you want, sunshine. Just post the "google earth" link to the places they've "polluted", and I will take unscarved women there and send you a photograph.
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Lots of those people attacking your source have no problems linking to John Pilger or other idiotic sources about how imperialistic and evil the West is but are blind for how imperialistic and evil the Islam is.
Using a non-mainstream source is going to make you look like a biased retard at best. Sorry, thats just the way it is on this forum.

I say the exact same thing to all the nutballs who use non-mainstream sources to attack America or the Jews or whatever. You are free to use any nutty fringe sources you want on this forum, but don't be surprised when the first post in your thread mocks your source. No one will take them seriously except other extremists who already agree with your conclusion.

Unless you dont care about convincing anyone, in which case it is basically just cheerleading anyway.

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Why dont you go live there because you are not willing to stand up for your own country.

Your words about ''polluting'' dont mean anything because you dont even see how poluted your own country is, be carefull what you ask for because you might get it.
The islam is already boss in parts of Belgium and there is nothing you did about it, even now you are not willing to stand up against it and look what is happening to your country.
I'm willing to stand up for my country, and for all the people who live here and obey our laws. Those people include Muslims.
Extremist on all parts - fundamentalist of all sorts, extreme right, extreme left - are trialed when they brake the law.

And if you post videos you need to tell the whole story.
The last videos goes about the banning of headscarfs in the 'Royal Atheneum of Antwerp' starting last september (2009). I went to another Royal Atheneum in the suburbs of Antwerp, and as a matter of fact we had an exchange-program with the Atheneum of Antwerp, because the latter was a "multicultural school" and ours was a "white school".

The whole thing is that the remarks that were made by the Imam that you see in the video were rejected by everyone: the press, politicians AND by the Muslim community themselves. The latter sayed "This Imam doesn't represent or speak on behalf of Muslims in Flanders/Belgium. Also, you need to know that because of our history and social structure in the 1950's the politicians made a "School Pact" over more than half a century ago.
That pact said that every religion was free in organizing education, and that they would get subsidized the same as state schools - BUT everyone needs to for fill in the criteria set up by the governement (het leerplan in Dutch). Thus, we have catholic schools, jewish schools, state schools,...

The Imam said - in his speech in JUNE 2009 - that he advised that every Muslim parent now should redraw their kids from state run schools and that they needed to set up their own school system (just like the Jews).
But what happended? Almost every girl didn't changed schools; They obeyjed the law. The parents and the Muslim community called the remarks of the Imam 'not welcomed'.

And let's be honest. Muslim immigrants are better integrated than those in the Netherlands. Our regional governement (the Flemish Governement) already started in the mid-1990's - as one of the first countries in the Western world - by setting up integration-programs for Muslim immigrants.
You probably know our extreme right party in Flanders "Vlaams Belang".

Well, they achieved their major political break-through in the early 90's way before extreme right parties achieved succes in France, Denmark, Italy or the Netherlands.
Other political parties (the right and the left ones) sweared to eachother never to work with them on a political level. They reacted by adressing some claims made by the extreme right party by setting up programs that tried - and relatively successful - to integrate Muslims better in society.
Dutch governement-officials even know come here to Flanders to see how we handle(d) things.

Sorry to say but I feel way more safe in the so-called "unsafe" neighberhoods of Antwerp and Brussels than let's say Rotterdam.
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By the way, I only used the word "polluted" in the sense that it's really getting ridiculous that whole the Western European subforum is full with threads about Muslims and there integration and the problems that come with them. And everytime when there is a new incident or something you make a new thread OR it is posted in "World News" section.
wtf?

Why don't you talk about problems like pensions or something? Or problems with education? Childcare?

I'm not here to tell you what things you should post or not post...
But PLEASE - do in the right subforum!
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