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Old 02-08-2010, 01:36 AM
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Extreem rechts, ook wel uiterst rechts, ultrarechts of rechts-radicaal, it is a term, which was used in a Belgian book title from 1995, it's not so new in Dutch language.
No they are different, just like many other political parties are different.It is new in our language.Moderate islam is closer to radical islam then radical right is to extreme right.
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The Nederlandse Volks-Unie is around there since 1971.
They were not radical right.
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It is true, but only idiots believe it? This makes no sense.
You just proved it does make sense.
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They had the power Germans gave them.
Yes the Germans and not the Dutch people.Basicly it was your ancestors, the nazis, that gave them power.
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Old 02-08-2010, 03:21 AM
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No they are different, just like many other political parties are different.It is new in our language.Moderate islam is closer to radical islam then radical right is to extreme right.
I understand the difference between rightwing populist and radical right, but radical right and extreme right?

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They were not radical right.
How would you call them?

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You just proved it does make sense.
I proved it by saying, it does not make sense?

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Yes the Germans and not the Dutch people.Basicly it was your ancestors, the nazis, that gave them power.
Yes, they only had power as long as the Germans were there.
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I understand the difference between rightwing populist and radical right, but radical right and extreme right?
Since you claim to know our history about right wing parties then I suggest you compare the political agenda from PVV and de Nederlandse Volks-Unie and you will know the difference bewteen radical right and extreme right.
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How would you call them?
Tbh it is a mix of fascists and extreme left wingers.Looks like nazism but it is branded as 'extreme right'.
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Yes, they only had power as long as the Germans were there.
That is exactly what I said.
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Old 02-16-2010, 02:48 AM
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I don't need an "anti-..." party, nor an "Pro-..." one. People try to classify politics into different directions just because they want to seperate from each other. Left and right, but politic is way more complex. Perhaps this is why you try to simplify. Whats on the right side, nationalsocialists? And whats on the left one, communists? I bet this is the way most of you still think. Running after old ideologies and claiming themselves to be educated, critical, free.

I'm sad and I feel ashamed for so many comments to read. In this, or maybe another thread, people claim to hate about 1 billion people, because of their religion. I'd like to deprive you of your humanity, but there's sth telling me its wrong. I guess its my mind.

Every ideology is united in at least one thing, the slavery of your mind. They all fight freedom. But I guess you didn't even get this simple fact in your head. Shame on you.
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I don't need an "anti-..." party, nor an "Pro-..." one. People try to classify politics into different directions just because they want to seperate from each other. Left and right, but politic is way more complex. Perhaps this is why you try to simplify. Whats on the right side, nationalsocialists? And whats on the left one, communists? I bet this is the way most of you still think. Running after old ideologies and claiming themselves to be educated, critical, free.

I'm sad and I feel ashamed for so many comments to read. In this, or maybe another thread, people claim to hate about 1 billion people, because of their religion. I'd like to deprive you of your humanity, but there's sth telling me its wrong. I guess its my mind.

Every ideology is united in at least one thing, the slavery of your mind. They all fight freedom. But I guess you didn't even get this simple fact in your head. Shame on you.
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Old 02-17-2010, 06:26 AM
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I don't need an "anti-..." party, nor an "Pro-..." one. People try to classify politics into different directions just because they want to seperate from each other. Left and right, but politic is way more complex. Perhaps this is why you try to simplify. Whats on the right side, nationalsocialists? And whats on the left one, communists? I bet this is the way most of you still think.
I sure do.

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Running after old ideologies and claiming themselves to be educated, critical, free.
To categorize things makes it easier to deal with complex systems.

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I'm sad and I feel ashamed for so many comments to read. In this, or maybe another thread, people claim to hate about 1 billion people, because of their religion. I'd like to deprive you of your humanity, but there's sth telling me its wrong. I guess its my mind.
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Every ideology is united in at least one thing, the slavery of your mind. They all fight freedom. But I guess you didn't even get this simple fact in your head. Shame on you.
So you are a smart aleck, who knows it all? Ok, I know, you are a German and we could use more Germans here, but this wasn't a good start.
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I sure do.
I'm not surprised, at all.

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To categorize things makes it easier to deal with complex systems.
And you sure know what happens to things if they're oversimplified.

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Never been to NL.

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So you are a smart aleck, who knows it all? Ok, I know, you are a German and we could use more Germans here, but this wasn't a good start.
I guess there's nothing about cleverness to reveal ovious generalizations nor in pointing out similarities. You might have a different point of view. If the shoe fits, just wear it.

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I'm not surprised, at all.
Do you follow these circular modells?

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And you sure know what happens to things if they're oversimplified.
This is too general, please apply it to this thread topic.

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Never been to NL.
I've never been there, too.

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I guess there's nothing about cleverness to reveal ovious generalizations nor in pointing out similarities. You might have a different point of view. If the shoe fits, just wear it.
Ideology has no room in science, but politics and ideology simply belong together.
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Do you follow these circular modells?
No, but its not hard to make conclusions out of peoples statements.

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This is too general, please apply it to this thread topic.
It's already in my first post.

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I've never been there, too.
Possibly its worth a travel.

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Ideology has no room in science, but politics and ideology simply belong together.
I'm not talking about science. You're right, otherwise I'd be sth like an anarchist, which I'm not, actually. In fact it's my fault not to define ideology. As you might know the german word for "ideology" has 2 different meanings, I'm talking about the one which is afflicted negatively.
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No, but its not hard to make conclusions out of peoples statements.
Please be a little more specific and on topic.

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It's already in my first post.
I see.

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Possibly its worth a travel.
All people I met, who have been there, say, it is worth a travel.

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I'm not talking about science. You're right, otherwise I'd be sth like an anarchist, which I'm not, actually. In fact it's my fault not to define ideology. As you might know the german word for "ideology" has 2 different meanings, I'm talking about the one which is afflicted negatively.
Yes, this makes sense to me.
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