Thread: Scottish "nationalists" win parliamentary majority for "independence" referendum

BBC: Scottish election: Salmond victorious after party's win

• Yellow colour indicates where SNP candidates to parliament were elected.
• Red is Labour
• Blue is Conservative
• Orange - islands at the top, (North) is Liberal Democrat

SNP leader Alex Salmond said his party's majority win at Holyrood was "a victory for a society and a nation".

During an address in Edinburgh, he said the SNP had "a majority of the seats, but not a monopoly on wisdom".

He added that the SNP would carry the hopes of the nation and make it proud.

Once all results were in,

• the SNP totalled 69 seats,
• Labour had secured 37,
• the Tories had 15,
• the Lib Dems won 5,
• and others totalled 3.

Mr Salmond said: "This party, the Scottish party, the national party, carries your hope. We shall carry it carefully and make the nation proud.

"I'll govern for all of the ambitions for Scotland and all the people who imagine that we can live in a better land.

"This party, the Scottish party, the national party, carries your hope. We shall carry it carefully and make the nation proud. Thank you very much."

The SNP took key seats in Labour heartlands and the Liberal Democrat vote also collapsed.

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The SNP now has a clear majority of four in the 129-seat Scottish Parliament, enough votes to hold an independence referendum.

Salmond, as usual, is telling lies.

(Aside for non-Scots:
The big lie Salmond tells is that he claims he and his "Scottish National Party" support and campaign for Scottish national independence, whereas they are disinterested in or hostile to genuine national independence and settle for much less.

"National independence" implies that a nation has the independence to elect the head of the nation state, the president of a national republic, whereas Salmond only supports independence for appointed Queen's ministers of Scotland, administering a state, a kingdom, within the Windsor dynasty realm, "the union crown".

In other words, Salmond surrenders the position of head of state to the Windsor royal family, and opposes the Scots independently electing a Scottish head of a Scottish state, as I explain, somewhat angrily, in this video)

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P5aawSdrCMk"]YouTube - Peter Dow says Salmond betrays Scottish independence for Queen's united kingdoms[/ame]

So this election result is not a victory for "a society and a nation". What nonsense!

This is a victory of one party of royalist lackeys, the SNP, over other parties of royalist lackeys.

The Queen wins again, like she always does when elections are rigged by the broadcasters spending so much air-time between elections broadcasting propaganda on behalf of the royal family, as recently with the royal wedding, then during political debates, giving preferential media coverage to royalist parties and royalist candidates.

This election was rigged in favour of the Queen's candidates, as are all the other elections in her kingdom.

It would be different and a good thing if the SNP had a republican leader and platform to fight for a Scottish republic, starting with banning the Queen from Scotland.

But Salmond is a royalist and the SNP under his leadership is a royalist party and they are in politics to serve their Queen and to serve themselves. They are not in politics to serve the Scots.

So the exact opposite of a Scottish republic will continue, as will soon be proved when the Queen visits Holyrood to rubber-stamp her new SNP administration at the opening of the new session of the Scottish parliament.

What more Queen's government means for Scotland is a continuing stream of death, disaster and missed opportunity for the Scots.

This is not "victory for the Scots". This is subjugation and brainwashing of the Scots by the United Kingdom and union crown state as per usual.

Real Scottish election results revealed - Queen wins again!



Salmond swears loyalty to the Queen.

Today, members of the Scottish Parliament swore allegiance to the Queen and most of them meant it.

At last we can clearly see the real result of the elections to Scottish parliament.

It was not a victory for the Scottish nation.

It was a victory for the Queen because her lackeys have control over the Scottish parliament once again.

Scotland is to continue to be ruled by the same Queen's ministers, judges and officers.

No change in Scotland.
No independence for the Scots.
Subjugation to the crown as per usual.

If you are not happy with Scots being subjugated by the Queen's royalist, fascist police state, you'll be wanting Scots to have our FREEDOM then?

Please register with the For Freedom Forums and join with other Scots and our friends world-wide to organise political support for a Scottish republican political alternative to the Queen's rule.

Said it before and will say it again.. SNP are a joke. They are socialist who like to bow to the Queen.

Originally Posted by austrianecon

Said it before and will say it again.. SNP are a joke. They are socialist who like to bow to the Queen.

That's why they are known as the "Tartan Tories"

I like strong one-party Government and dislike coalitions, PR, AV, AV+, STV, 'confidence and supply' ...

So I should be pleased Scotland has a strong one party Government and I am - ONLY for the reason I gave above!

Just so long as no new powers are handed to the third-rate politicians that make up that joke that sits in the over-price carbuncle at HolyRood - no new powers so that can drive us into more debt and tax us even more - which is their want.

One bright spot I am looking forward to - is the resounding defeat for the Chookters on the Independence referendum.


BE POSITIVE SAY NO!

Originally Posted by austrianecon

Said it before and will say it again.. SNP are a joke. They are socialist who like to bow to the Queen.

Mhhm.. galling to see people write political change from within the system? That the SNP did not have to stoop to the violence of other political lobbyists, like the IRA for example?

It is possible to create change without using violence.

We will not know what the SNP is until it achieves independence and is required to replace the main aim of independence with normal policies.

Btw, would Tartan Tories make university education free to all....and would it introduce free prescriptions? (don't bother with the it's not free your taxes pay, we know all that). I don't think I've seen Tories support that kind of policy for a while...

See the towering walls of the United Kingdom's Scottish castle come crumbling down under the full onslaught of Salmond's SNP.

http://www.exploretalent.com/model_p...video_id=34678

Originally Posted by Viv

Mhhm.. galling to see people write political change from within the system? That the SNP did not have to stoop to the violence of other political lobbyists, like the IRA for example?

It is possible to create change without using violence.

We will not know what the SNP is until it achieves independence and is required to replace the main aim of independence with normal policies.

Btw, would Tartan Tories make university education free to all....and would it introduce free prescriptions? (don't bother with the it's not free your taxes pay, we know all that). I don't think I've seen Tories support that kind of policy for a while...

If it works good for you guys.. but it won't. Nobody knows what a group is until it is in power. But we do now SNP policies and attitudes towards things like the Crown and it's pie in the sky ideas about free whatever when they have no control over the revenues that matter.

Originally Posted by Peter Dow

See the towering walls of the United Kingdom's Scottish castle come crumbling down under the full onslaught of Salmond's SNP.

http://www.exploretalent.com/model_p...video_id=34678

For god sake get a grip!

It may of passed you...but the Scottish nation spoke!


End of Story!


And ....Well ....... that's democracy for you!!!


God.... am I proud of the Scottish nation!

We at long last rise from our knees and begin to take our first steps in a very long time!

Regards
Highlander

Originally Posted by highlander

For god sake get a grip!

It may of passed you...but the Scottish nation spoke!

No. The Scottish nation voted, mostly for royalist lackeys the TV in Scotland has been broadcasting speaking for years. The speaking which has been heard is only speaking by the Queen's lackeys. Most Scots have not been heard speaking.

No surprise that now the elected MSPs say -

Originally Posted by The oath

I (Member’s Name), do swear that I will be faithful and bear true allegiance to Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth, Her Heirs and Successors, according to Law. So help me God.

or

Originally Posted by The affirmation states

I (Member’s Name), do solemnly, sincerely and truly declare and affirm that I will be faithful and bear true allegiance to Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth, Her Heirs and Successors, according to Law.

but I could have told you they were going to say that before the Scottish nation voted for the Queen's lackeys they have heard speaking, because the election and the parliament is rigged to keep power in the hands of the Queen.

Originally Posted by highlander

End of Story!

No it isn't the end of the Scottish nation's story. The story doesn't end like this -

Queen Elizabeth's Story
"... and so although many Scottish innocents died in disasters, murdered or in accidents or botched medical care and although economic opportunities were lost in Scotland from the brain drain of clever Scots leaving because they cannot stomach Scottish universities and companies being run by royalist twits and other clever Scots being banned from universities and companies for not being royalist twits, and all this damage done to Scots in Scotland caused by the Queen's stupid, incompetent ministers and officers, all the Scots were faithful and bore true allegiance to Queen Elizabeth anyway.
The End."

Unfortunately for the Queen and fortunately for the Scots, it is not the end of the story because certain brave-heart Scots will not stand quietly by as the Queen kills our future. Republican Scots like me will continue to fight to change the future of Scots into a better story with a happier ending.

Originally Posted by highlander

And ....Well ....... that's democracy for you!!!

No, the Scottish elections were not democracy because democracy means "government by all the people" it does not mean "government by an elected dictatorship". If this was a democracy you and I and all the Scots would be in the government, not just the Queen's ministers.

The Queen's ministers and officers will be making sure that the Scots are not allowed in the government by shutting outspoken Scots up, denying us free speech, denying us the right to publish and the right to protest.

Originally Posted by highlander

God.... am I proud of the Scottish nation!

The Scots to be proud of are those who fight this Queen and her rule - not the Scots who say they will be faithful to her.

Originally Posted by highlander

We at long last rise from our knees and begin to take our first steps in a very long time!

Regards
Highlander

No, most Scots are still on their knees to the Queen.