Thread: Le Pen shocks France as far right hits historic heights

Fascism is categorised by political theory as being right wing that is not indispute.

Nazis are most often categorised as right wing though a few have argued that they are better categorised as being radical centrists No one seriously contends they were left wing or socialists. Although the catch cry has become popularised by the american right in an effort to distance themselves from it

The Nazi party while originating as a socialist party were moved to the right and fascism under the leadership of Hitler who was a greater admirer of Mussolini's fascist Italy. The socialist wing was gradually marginalised and eventually purged. They were not socialist when they ruled they were authoritarian and right wing. Not left wing or socialist.

The NF are characterised as right wing in France. And no right and left don't change depending on the location of the party.

Feel free to provide a french source claiming the opposite or continue to deny reality.

Originally Posted by MisLed

which analysts. AP? Our so-called analysts here?

All the analysts of the French politics say that!... And, every the other politicians call Marine Lepen's party "extreme right"...

Originally Posted by ryanm34

Fascism is categorised by political theory as being right wing that is not indispute.

Nazis are most often categorised as right wing though a few have argued that they are better categorised as being radical centrists No one seriously contends they were left wing or socialists. Although the catch cry has become popularised by the american right in an effort to distance themselves from it

The Nazi party while originating as a socialist party were moved to the right and fascism under the leadership of Hitler who was a greater admirer of Mussolini's fascist Italy. The socialist wing was gradually marginalised and eventually purged. They were not socialist when they ruled they were authoritarian and right wing. Not left wing or socialist.

The NF are characterised as right wing in France. And no right and left don't change depending on the location of the party.

Feel free to provide a french source claiming the opposite or continue to deny reality.

you just did.

Originally Posted by MisLed

you just did.

Where? Identify which part of what I wrote was untrue.

Originally Posted by ryanm34

No matter how often you repeat "nazi's were socialists" it will not make it true.

national socialists.

= socialists that were nationalists instead of internationalists. Thats the only difference between nazis and socialists.

So when you're out there protesting on the street demanding that rich people need to lose their rights. Just remember that that is the core philosophy and ecomonic policy of adolf hitler.

I love how the OP calls the Le Pen vote a rejection of socialism when she is known for attacking capitalism openly and wanting to nationalise some areas of the economy.

I don't think Marine Lepen is very dangerous... She had never said any racist thing...

The problem for her is the reputation of his dad, in my opinion... Because his dad, Jean-Marie Lepen is really racist and have say a lot of racist thing... Marine Lepen want change the name of her Party for loose the bad reputation of the National Front.

Originally Posted by Munqi

national socialists.

= socialists that were nationalists instead of internationalists. Thats the only difference between nazis and socialists.

From this logic we can infer that the Democratic republic of the Congo is a democracy no?

Originally Posted by clarisse150

I don't think Marine Lepen is very dangerous... She had never said any racist thing...

The problem for her is the reputation of his dad, in my opinion... Because his dad, Jean-Marie Lepen is really racist and have say a lot of racist thing... Marine Lepen want change the name of her Party for loose the bad reputation of the National Front.

Sure Marie Le Pen has done a very good job of making fascism palatable, good for her, doesn't make her party, her ideology or her supporters any less dangerous.

Originally Posted by parker

I love how the OP calls the Le Pen vote a rejection of socialism when she is known for attacking capitalism openly and wanting to nationalise some areas of the economy.

Even Sarko has attacked unrestrained capitalism in this campaign, the french are pissed at what they see as the failure of global markets laissez faire is winning no one any votes. She will say what ever she has to, to grow her party and gain seats.