Thread: muslim criminal gangs in Denmark

The Sun reported in 2010 how Muslims took over the British underworld:

"Religion is important to us only as a way of defining who we can trust and who we can work with." Amir adds: "Young Muslim gangs aren't worried about what Allah makes of their criminal ways — they don't believe in it to that extent. Through religion we speak the same language, live in the same areas, go to the same schools and can even use mosques as a safe place away from the police or other gangs. If you f*** with a Muslim gang you'd better be able to run fast or hide well, because they will come back at you in numbers."

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/features/2853450/How-Muslims-took-over-the-British-underworld.html

This quote clearly shows that muslim crime is clearly more about ethnicity than actual religion.

Copenhagen Municipality estimates that the immigrants gangs — which are in fact Muslim gangs — get 700 new members every year (in Copenhagen alone).

A police officer told me that the reason that they prefer to crack down on rockers such as Hells Angels is that the rockers actually behave relatively calmly when they get visits from the police. Visiting the "dungeons of the immigrant gangs is like visiting a monkey cage. They crawl on the walls, try to escape and have absolutely no respect for the police."

From Den Kort Avis:

Still more crackdowns on gangs
February 9, 2012

Wednesday morning the police launched a major, coordinated crackdown on gangs in Copenhagen and Zealand. Over 1,000 officers participated in the raid that included searches and arrests, from Albertslund and Hundige to Køge, Roskilde and Hillerød.

They conducted raids in residential units and buildings that house members or sympathizers of the organized gangs. This was preceded by months of investigation.

The gangs have increased in the recent years. There is a recruitment of new members. Gangs like 'Black Cobra' and 'Bloodz' are engaged in a coordinated mobilization and they have special places for hiding weapons . ...

The gangs have also become more geographically widespread. They have moved south from Copenhagen to the rest of Zealand, from Inner Nørrebro, to the suburbs Ishøj, Greve, Greve, and on to Køge.

http://denkorteavis.dk/2012/politiaktion-mod-bander-i-vaekst/

Thousands of young people can end up in gangs
by ORLA BORG and CARSTEN ELLEGAARD
13-09-09

Gangs in Denmark
For the first time Copenhagen will put massive action against 18-25 year old immigrants who are moving into crime or have committed a crime.

This is done in recognition that the local response to young people under 18 has been unable to prevent an increase in the number of disaffected young immigrants.

The municipality is concerned that thousands of immigrants over 18 years old in the coming years will be included in the gang war and see crime as a permanent career.

So far the council has left it to the police, courts and corrections to take care of those 18-25 year olds, but social director Mikkel Warming acknowledges that it has not been enough.

Something has to be done
"We have so far not made any response to this group, who in their adulthood are on their way out of society rather than being on their way into society. We have to confront the young people if they are not to end up as members of a gang, threatening safety in the city", said Mikkel Warming.

As part of the plan, the social services for the first time establish a collaboration between the municipality, police and probation.

Officials estimate that 700 new 18-25 year old immigrants will be heading into a criminal career every year because they do not have jobs or training to be able to live as ordinary citizens.

The plan from the Municipality of Copenhagen, the group of 18-25 year olds is held in a very short leash with the requirement that they must be working or training, and if necessary, treated for abuse or negative social behavior.

The plan must be submitted to the City Council in the coming budget negotiations.

http://jp.dk/indland/kbh/article1814600.ece

Your own article:

"I have every reason to hate, to be bitter and to seek revenge and justice. But I have on the contrary, one message, and only one message: Let us live together in peace, in mutual respect, and let us help each other as people rather than hating each other. And everyone in this community can make an effort, even us ordinary citizens. We can say from and to ... "

And to say the because the gangs have Muslims in it, that it means something, it doesn't. It's not going to get you far.

Not saying muslims are bad, just trying to make the point that taking in so many immigrants from certain countries results in severe problems. The USA has had similar problems with undocumented Hispanic gangs, but on a much larger scale. This has only accelerated the process of urban decay and middle class flight out of the crime-ridden inner cities (particularly most of Los Angeles in the USA).

Originally Posted by Kranes56

Let us live together in peace, in mutual respect, and let us help each other as people rather than hating each other.

I say let us live separately apart in peace. We can have mutual respect between our separate communities, and different countries can help eachother.

There does not need to be any hate. The one sure recipe for hate and resentment is to mix everyone all together in the same neighborhood, then idealistically expect all the different ethnicities to get along. This has been problematic in many cities in the USA, problematic in London, and it will no doubt be problematic in Denmark. The danish people just do not have any prior experiences with this level of cultural diversity; they do not know what they are getting themselves into.

Originally Posted by Anders Hoveland

Not saying muslims are bad, just trying to make the point that taking in so many immigrants from certain countries results in severe problems. The USA has had similar problems with undocumented Hispanic gangs, but on a much larger scale. This has only accelerated the process of urban decay and middle class flight out of the crime-ridden inner cities (particularly most of Los Angeles in the USA).

You know, something tells me, it's not where they're from, but where they go that's the bigger problem.

Originally Posted by Kranes56

You know, something tells me, it's not where they're from, but where they go that's the bigger problem.

Prison violence is nearly non-existent in Denmark. But all that could soon change. I forsee danish prisons becoming like American prisons, full of racial violence and rapes. http://www.scienceforums.net/topic/6...-prison-rapes/

Originally Posted by Anders Hoveland

Prison violence is nearly non-existent in Denmark. But all that could soon change. I forsee danish prisons becoming like American prisons, full of racial violence and rapes. http://www.scienceforums.net/topic/6...-prison-rapes/

What does this have to do with what I said?

Originally Posted by Kranes56

but where they go that's the bigger problem.

Where else do you think they are going to go? To prison.
And that is not going to be the end of the problems, for danes unlucky enough to be in prison. A prison sentence, even a short one, is soon to become much much worse.

This is really not going to be any different than the Blacks in the USA. Perhaps the danish criminologists should start reading about the experiences of the United states with its young male African American population in relation to its prison system. These extreme sociological problems are absolutely unimaginable to most danes now, but it may soon become common occurence in the next few decades.

Ethnicity matters.

Originally Posted by Anders Hoveland

Where else do you think they are go to go? To prison.
And that is not going to be the end of the problems, for danes unlucky enough to be in prison. A prison sentence, even a short one, is soon to become much much worse.

Yes, because it's not like there's an step before being sent to prison.

So tell me why there were not any problems like this before Denmark started taking in so many asylum seekers? Explain that.

And if you say it is all about low incomes, will there really be enough decent jobs for all these additional people? In other words, can we be sure this problem is going to go away after a few generations? Because this is not what the Americans have seen with a large segment of their Black population after many many generations.

Copenhagen is going to have to greatly increase its police forces in response to all the asylum seekers it has taken in. How much is this going to cost?
Do we really want the surrounding suburbs of Copenhagen to become like America's capital? Few people realise how bad the crime really is in Washington, D.C.:

"Washington D.C's most dangerous neigborhood is only about a mile from the Supreme Court. On any given night, armed police roam the streets in the northeast part of the city in search of guns and drugs. So routine are these patrols that black men sitting on stoops or standing on corners will reflixively lift their T-shirts when the police approach, to show they have no pistol tucked into their waitbands. Often the police frisk them anyway, and search their cars as well. You might almost forget, in light of these encounters, that the fourth amendment to the constitution establishes the right of the American people to be 'secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures. America's search for safety is relentlessly eroding the precious protections in the Bill of Rights."

My country is fairly racially homogenous, and I do not want it to become any more ethnically diverse. Denmark is a UTOPIA compared to most of the other countries in the world. I want to keep it that way.

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage...nderworld.html

Amir claims that Britain’s underworld will soon be completely dominated by Islamic gangs — and he says the West’s paranoia over terrorism is to blame. “People don’t f*** with us because they think we’re all in al-Qaeda,” he explains.

What utter nonsense. There's only a few world class criminal organizations out there and semi literate, ragtag Pakistani boys are not among them. They might be getting bigger in street drug dealing, but this article talks about these fools as if they were the N'drangheta or Yakuza. The Turks, Russians, Albanians and West Indians control the drug business in London at the top level.

“Problem is, these days nobody fights on their own. You’ll get attacked by a whole gang, so you have to have something like this to stop people messing."

This. They hunt in packs like all cowards. They would never be man enough to take on a black or white youth one on one because they know they would be on the receiving end of a much deserved hiding. Honestly, these people are vile. What is the logic of having them in Western society. It's almost as if our left / liberals have some bizarre suicide drive.