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Thread: Communists and Neo-Nazis fight in the streets! (Germany)

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    The skinheads are only a subgroup of the wider Utlranationalist movemnt, one that many nationalists are not proud of.


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    Good, maybe they'll do each other in.
    If it sounds like Marx and acts like Stalin...it must be Obama

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anders Hoveland View Post
    The skinheads are only a subgroup of the wider Utlranationalist movemnt, one that many nationalists are not proud of.
    The overwhelming majority of nationalists are idiots in my opinion - I mean, they're nationalists!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anders Hoveland View Post
    What are you talking of? Europe has never been the most violent place on earth, even when one includes both world wars.
    Of course it has. They've been massacring each other since recorded history. Europeans have been more bloodthristy, violent, and destructive to each other and outsiders than any other "race" in human history.

    Quote Originally Posted by Anders Hoveland View Post
    Other cultures just do not make such a big fuss about their past violent conflicts. History books are notoriously euro-centric, we read very little of what happened in the rest of the word, besides for a few ancient civilizations. European wars, although messy at times, have been much more civilised than any other region of the world.
    Africa and Latin America have been far more violent in the last 200 years. By far, many more died from conflict in China in the twentieth century than in european conflicts. Two million children die from starvation in India every year.
    Total nonsense. No one can surpass the human loss of European conflict, which I think just goes to show how ordinary they really are.
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    I'm willing to change my position at any time on any issue. I have done so in the past. All you need is a logical, provable case, and I'm all in. The question is, have you got what it takes?
    Oh, and just so you're not confused, I'm an apatheist libertarian.

    "If we don't believe in freedom of expression for people we despise, we don't believe in it at all." --Noam Chomsky

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anders Hoveland View Post
    Just like I condemn the starvation/impoverishment of millions of Germans caused by France and Britain that precipitated the war.

    Can we stay on topic now?

    In these types of clashes, usually it is the skinheads that start the provokation, then the Communists that initiate the first violent physical attack, and next the skinheads that are only too happy to have an excuse to attack back.
    aha! So you're a neo-nazi?
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    I'm willing to change my position at any time on any issue. I have done so in the past. All you need is a logical, provable case, and I'm all in. The question is, have you got what it takes?
    Oh, and just so you're not confused, I'm an apatheist libertarian.

    "If we don't believe in freedom of expression for people we despise, we don't believe in it at all." --Noam Chomsky

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    With these clashes, its usually impossible to tell who starts it. But alot of these right wing groups come with the intention of causing trouble. Plenty of news stories online of right wing extremists in Germany initiating violent clashes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Franticfrank View Post
    With these clashes, its usually impossible to tell who starts it. But alot of these right wing groups come with the intention of causing trouble. Plenty of news stories online of right wing extremists in Germany initiating violent clashes.
    Exactly. Its not too hard to realize the skinheads are there for the violence, not to voice grievances. LOL
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    I'm willing to change my position at any time on any issue. I have done so in the past. All you need is a logical, provable case, and I'm all in. The question is, have you got what it takes?
    Oh, and just so you're not confused, I'm an apatheist libertarian.

    "If we don't believe in freedom of expression for people we despise, we don't believe in it at all." --Noam Chomsky

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    Quote Originally Posted by Franticfrank View Post
    alot of these right wing groups come with the intention of causing trouble. Plenty of news stories online of right wing extremists in Germany initiating violent clashes.
    I do not know the specifics of this riot in germany, but neo nazis are almost never the ones to be the first to initiate violence. Usually it is the left that cannot control themselves. Of course, the neo nazis are not completely blameless. Sometimes it seems they purposefully try to go out of their way to be offensive and incite the anger of progressives, like they actually want a fight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anders Hoveland View Post
    I do not know the specifics of this riot in germany, but neo nazis are almost never the ones to be the first to initiate violence. Usually it is the left that cannot control themselves. Of course, the neo nazis are not completely blameless. Sometimes it seems they purposefully try to go out of their way to be offensive and incite the anger of progressives, like they actually want a fight.
    You are being at the very least naive here or possibly are beginning to believe all the propaganda you read and speak.

    Have a look at the video on this page. Neo Nazi's terrorising innocent non neo nazis out of neighbourhoods they want and already up to mass murder

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-17514394

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anders Hoveland View Post
    I do not know the specifics of this riot in germany, but neo nazis are almost never the ones to be the first to initiate violence.
    That's just totally false. We all realize you are sympathetic to them because they're racist, bigots and all, but have you ever seen a rally with nazis? They ONLY go there for a fight.

    Quote Originally Posted by Anders Hoveland View Post
    Usually it is the left that cannot control themselves.
    Sure, but they're almost never violent. They might blow up a car, but they wont attack people.

    Quote Originally Posted by Anders Hoveland View Post
    Of course, the neo nazis are not completely blameless. Sometimes it seems they purposefully try to go out of their way to be offensive and incite the anger of progressives, like they actually want a fight.
    Not sometimes - almost always.
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    I'm willing to change my position at any time on any issue. I have done so in the past. All you need is a logical, provable case, and I'm all in. The question is, have you got what it takes?
    Oh, and just so you're not confused, I'm an apatheist libertarian.

    "If we don't believe in freedom of expression for people we despise, we don't believe in it at all." --Noam Chomsky

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