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Old 07-24-2008, 03:37 AM
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Which Dictator did you have in mind to make the "correct" choices for ME? What you suggest is slavery.

Really I don't care for my fellow man and I good with that.

LOL you already live in a democracy that collects taxes and uses them to make "choices" for you. They take care of an array of issues that affect you...some govts do better than others of course. But just because we live in social groups doesnt mean there has to be a dictator and thats a silly argument to jump to over making a national health care plan available to all nationals regardless of lifestyle.
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Old 07-24-2008, 03:39 AM
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making me responsible for you or anyone else is weak. What part of that do you not understand. I'm not suggesting I am responsible for anyone.
I thought you said I couldnt make you responsible for anyone else...now you are suggest that I am making you......again you talk in contradictory circles.

Are you out there protesting public schools, public police, all taxation, the socialized military, public works money etc? How do you feel about being forced into being responsible for your neighbors water sanitation?
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That statement of yours I bolded seems much more unhealthy and costly to a society than alcoholism, drug addiction or obesity. Such a callous disregard for each others humanity surely leads to some of the most awful things imaginable.
Anger leads to many health problems, heart disease, alcoholism, drug addiction, murder and suicide. Treating the uncontrolled anger issue is a method to alter a preventable cause of disease.

Callous disregard for common humanity is a symptom of anger and aversion.
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Anger leads to many health problems, heart disease, alcoholism, drug addiction, murder and suicide. Treating the uncontrolled anger issue is a method to alter a preventable cause of disease.

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I thought you said I couldnt make you responsible for anyone else...now you are suggest that I am making you......again you talk in contradictory circles.

Are you out there protesting public schools, public police, all taxation, the socialized military, public works money etc? How do you feel about being forced into being responsible for your neighbors water sanitation?
Nothing contradictory in my statement. Would you like to discuss each item individually or lump them all together?
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Nothing contradictory in my statement. Would you like to discuss each item individually or lump them all together?
Its contradictory to say that I am making you be responsible and THEN claiming I cant make you responsible...you cant accuse me of doing something that I cant possibly do.

Feel free to lump them all together or seperate...your choice.

and I still want to know...How do you feel about being forced into being responsible for your neighbors water sanitation?
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Its contradictory to say that I am making you be responsible and THEN claiming I cant make you responsible...you cant accuse me of doing something that I cant possibly do.

Feel free to lump them all together or seperate...your choice.

and I still want to know...How do you feel about being forced into being responsible for your neighbors water sanitation?
My suggestion is that you are trying to make me responsible as well as everyone else and I refute that idea.

Sanitation? I'm on a septic system and it works fine for me.
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Here's a give me, On our Ranch we shared a water system with our neighbors because it was cost effective for the 5 of us to do so, so we came up with a use agreement and as a group "WE" decided to work it out together. Nobody forced us to do this and "WE" could of installed individual wells and came up with the same basic need being fulfilled. Then each of my neighbors is qualified to turn on the pump and operate the system. Not a one sits back and does nothing if there is a problem that needs attention. Even the rich lady with the horses and drives a Jag knows how to set up her irrigation.

Your idea is forcing others to take care of the inept and the weak. The concept of being weak does one of two things, it drives you to become stronger and overcome obstacles or you die off. It's called Evolution.

By the way are you a woman? Women are usually emotional creatures and that wold help explain your position.
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My suggestion is that you are trying to make me responsible as well as everyone else and I refute that idea.

Sanitation? I'm on a septic system and it works fine for me.

How can *I" try and make you do something when I am not CAPABLE of making you do it?

Oh you are just skipping the issues and not answering?

You do pay for water sanitation via taxes, is that ok with you? What about schools, roads, police etc. Or are you claiming you dont actually pay any taxes? How do you feel about being responsible for your neighbors security, their water sanitation, their childrens public school education etc? Isnt having to pay for those things for your neighbors mean you are just a slave in a dictatorship?

I sense you are dodging.
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Here's a give me, On our Ranch we shared a water system with our neighbors because it was cost effective for the 5 of us to do so, so we came up with a use agreement and as a group "WE" decided to work it out together. Nobody forced us to do this and "WE" could of installed individual wells and came up with the same basic need being fulfilled. Then each of my neighbors is qualified to turn on the pump and operate the system. Not a one sits back and does nothing if there is a problem that needs attention. Even the rich lady with the horses and drives a Jag knows how to set up her irrigation.

Your idea is forcing others to take care of the inept and the weak. The concept of being weak does one of two things, it drives you to become stronger and overcome obstacles or you die off. It's called Evolution.

By the way are you a woman? Women are usually emotional creatures and that wold help explain your position.
Oh lovely now you are revealing your support for both eugenics and sexism! LOL!
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