I kind of had a "duh" moment when reading through some threads by Skepticos here. I've known a number of Germans. They as a whole came off as very remorseful for WWII the holocaust and all that and seemed totally reformed. I figured they were the reason Western Germany had managed to dust itself off so well and reintigrate with the western world after WWII.

However the idea that you could have a nation that was that anti semetic and ruthless and after losing a war they suddenly transform into the people I knew is silly. Of course the old sentiments would run deep.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denazification

The change we see in the Germans in international academia at least seems to be a large part of the denazification laws that were put into place after the war. And actually taking people to the concentration camps and the like.

However again it was naive of me to thing that even mounds of crushing evidence would suffice for everyone in the country. Especially since not even enough time has passed for all of the origional Nazis to have died.

No there are apperantely more than an handful who totally deny the holocaust. It also seems this is very common following a genocide.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genocide_denial


But more worrysome is that it would seem that Nazism is on the rise again. And it sounds like maybe the laws surrounding denazification have weakened over time.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/1301347.stm

However it isn't too easy to get a feeling for the magnitude of Nazism/Neo-Naizsm from bumping around on the net. And I'm no expert. Though it would seem that the annonimity of the net would allow for easier spreading of Nazism especially in countries where it is illegal.

Anybody know the current status of Nazism in the world today and whether it's just a fringe thing by a handful of psychotics or a growing sizable movement? Something in between?

See now those people at the BBC haven't read the book Liberal Fascism. Then again, I don't expect they will...

We've gone over this in last weeks thread:

Liberal fascism

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Why always right wing, wasn't the whole SS thing Socialism?

Probably more in regards to extreme xenophobia. Besides, the groups they're describing would refer to themselves as right-wing by todays standards- om issues of immigration for instance. Maybe you should stick to the topic and spiirt of the thread?

Neo-Nazism is growing I think, like many other things, while others contract. Its still tiny though, who knows how far it will go. I think Denazification was a bad idea btw, in regards to just pushing it underground- a thing must be debated to be dispelled, and it'll just attract dissaffected youth otherwise.

naziism can still be seen in action all over the world in the form of islam, an allied ideology intent on genocide against the Jews, gays, Christians, agnostics, athiests, or anyone not considered a pure muslim by whoever is holding the sword.

http://www.freerepublic.com/forum/a3a8ff1c12efe.htm
http://www.middleeast.org/forum/fb-public/1/4320.shtml

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Qur'an 9:5 Fight and kill the disbelievers wherever you find them, take them captive, torture them, and lie in wait and ambush them using every stratagem of war.

Just like Neo Cons?

Who are gassing millions of Jews as we speak...


Anyway while Nazi comparisons are popular enough (if you haven't been compared to a Nazi on the Internet you should still be considered a newbie), does anybody know anything about the real article or its offspring?

I'm guessing no.

I was responding aqua who compared Islam with conservative values? as to my relatives that were gassed I remember when I look at the pictures of them before they were gassed in my Dads album, in Catholic Poland,where long before Adolf, they kicked beaten and murdered by christian when the popular sport on friday night as a christian was to visit a the jewish side of town!

May I be so bold to ask what your avitar represents to you ?

Sorry to hear of your sad loss Bubba.

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