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    Quote Originally Posted by Hermes View Post
    This is the new face of war in the 21st century. Well, it started during the cold war. State actors use proxy forces.
    The cold war was deterred because of nuclear weapons. Both sides knew the other side would do just as much damage and ruin the world. Thus solidifying my point from earlier.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hermes View Post
    They're backed by state actors.
    & WHO be those State actors, pray tell ?
    Iraq, Syria, Libya or maybe the Russki's ?

    OH YEAH ! -
    They are our friends and allies the Saudi's, Qatar etc
    .............................. ................ NOT to mention the CIA


    What a dirty Obscene Joke American foreign policy has become
    .............. and the wonder is, that there are still puppets here who try to defend it

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    Quote Originally Posted by snakestretcher View Post
    So their presence there is, in effect, pointless?
    No, it has point [:
    There are some a--holes in the world that just need to be shot. Mad Dog

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    Quote Originally Posted by ArmySoldier View Post
    The cold war was deterred because of nuclear weapons. Both sides knew the other side would do just as much damage and ruin the world. Thus solidifying my point from earlier.
    Too many Islamic fundamentalists don't share this concern with mutually assured destruction.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eadora View Post
    & WHO be those State actors pray tell ?
    Iraq,Syria,Libya or maybe the Russkis ?

    OH YEAH!
    They are our friends and allies the Saudis,Qatar etc
    NOT to mention the CIA


    What a dirty Obscene Joke American foreign policy has become
    ..............and the wonder is, that there are still puppets here who try to defend it

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    Maybe because they can't read your posts! lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by ArmySoldier View Post
    I think nukes are that deterrent. I think when the world saw what happened when we dropped them on Japan they thought "ok, dam. no one will be able to take over the world now"
    At the time we were the only country with nukes. Not so anymore. 1 nuke now will lead to destruction of the world. Because there will be retaliation. No ifs, ands, or buts.
    United We Stand, Divided We Fall. D's and R's are united and the people are divided.
    WE THE PEOPLE, NOT We The Corporations, or We the Government. Hold our elected officials to this.


    hard to believe in a time when we're facing a banking crisis that many of the banks created -- are still the most powerful lobby on Capitol Hill. And they frankly own the place,"

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    Quote Originally Posted by ArmySoldier View Post
    The cold war was deterred because of nuclear weapons. Both sides knew the other side would do just as much damage and ruin the world. Thus solidifying my point from earlier.
    Do you think, if we leave Europe, and Russia or other decides to invade Europe, we'll send nukes and start a nuclear war?
    I sure hope not.
    United We Stand, Divided We Fall. D's and R's are united and the people are divided.
    WE THE PEOPLE, NOT We The Corporations, or We the Government. Hold our elected officials to this.


    hard to believe in a time when we're facing a banking crisis that many of the banks created -- are still the most powerful lobby on Capitol Hill. And they frankly own the place,"

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    Quote Originally Posted by dairyair View Post
    Do you think, if we leave Europe, and Russia or other decides to invade Europe, we'll send nukes and start a nuclear war?
    I sure hope not.
    Doesnt matter what you do. We have our own nukes

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ole Ole View Post
    Soviet-Afghanistan war in the 1980's.
    If we had stayed out of it there never would have been 9/11, two wars in Iraq and war in Afghanistan.

    Obama and the neocons are now trying to do exactly the same thing in Syria, trying to block Russia eliminating the insurgent radicals hoping to turn it also into perpetual war in which we empower the radicals, run off Russia and then fight the Muslim radicals we organized, armed and protected.
    Last edited by JakeJ; Jan 10 2017 at 04:30 PM.


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    Mattis vs. Trump: Some big differences.

    First, his dealings with the White House. Mattis says what he thinks. That is President-elect Trump’s reputation, but I think the fact of the matter is Trump actually says what sounds good. There’s a big difference. What’s worse, Trump seems to value unquestioning loyalty more than he does hard facts.

    There are other big, even huge, differences between Mattis and Trump. Mattis, for example, is an avid reader. He prepared a reading list for his officers before deploying to Iraq in 2004 and required that it be studied. Tip to OSD-Policy: Start reading the works of Sir Hew Strachan, Mattis’ favorite strategist.

    Mattis is against isolationism and a fan of what he calls “continued American engagement in the world.” He also believes that “compromise [is] … a fundamental necessity at the heart of democratic government.” (Warning to Pentagoners: Mattis also is anti-PowerPoint, which he says “makes us stupid.”) And Trump avoided the draft, while retired Marine Colonel Gary Anderson calls Mattis “the finest combat leader we’ve produced since Korea.”
    http://foreignpolicy.com/2016/11/21/...and-for-trump/
    Retired U.S. Marine Gen. James Mattis, who formerly worked with NATO (the North Atlantic Treaty Organization) as the supreme allied commander of transformation, might become secretary of defense in President-elect Donald Trump's cabinet. The general worked in the NATO commander position from November 2007 to August 2010 as a strong advocate of strengthening military forces, while the president he would report to has flip-flopped on his views about the organization, first calling it "obsolete" earlier this year and then being "all about NATO" later on, stating that he wants NATO to focus more on combating terrorism.
    The retired general has spoken about his desire to to increase the strength of the military among NATO forces, going on to say how the organization should consider all threats on the "warfighting spectrum," including nuclear, conventional, or irregular threats. In a 2009 speech, he also spoke about how to create the new Strategic Concept, which NATO adopted in November 2010, and about how NATO should not "adopt a single, preclusive view of warfare, which would likely leave our populations vulnerable to surprise."
    https://www.bustle.com/articles/1979...e-new-position
    I could say that the involvement of US military within the EU will continue,
    the tanks will stay.
    Politics, it seems to me, for years, or all too long, has been concerned with right or left instead of right or wrong.

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    The Radical Center: The Future of American Politics

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