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    Quote Originally Posted by dairyair View Post
    Do you think, if we leave Europe, and Russia or other decides to invade Europe, we'll send nukes and start a nuclear war?
    I sure hope not.
    I don't think Russia's going to try and takeover Europe like the British are so afraid of.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dairyair View Post
    At the time we were the only country with nukes. Not so anymore. 1 nuke now will lead to destruction of the world. Because there will be retaliation. No ifs, ands, or buts.
    Yep the threat of nukes ending the world is the deterrent itself
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hermes View Post
    Too many Islamic fundamentalists don't share this concern with mutually assured destruction.
    Those Islamic countries that protect terrorists can't afford the terrorists to get too out of control. Then they won't get money from the West...
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    Quote Originally Posted by ArmySoldier View Post
    I don't think Russia's going to try and takeover Europe like the British are so afraid of.

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    Yep the threat of nukes ending the world is the deterrent itself
    Is it? We leave Europe and some country decides to invade. We'd launch a nuke attack? Risking all out nuclear war? Is that what you think? Is that what you want?
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    Quote Originally Posted by dairyair View Post
    Nukes are enough to basically end most of mankind. So yeah, they're enough if one wants to use them. I however, never want them used.
    indeed, nukes give you one option: annihilate everyone. Is that an appropriate response to a minor provocation? No. What does this mean then? That with only nukes at your disposal, you are unable to respond to minor provocations with anything less than total annihilation of everyone. This means, you are unable to respond, because you are not an idiot who would kill everyone over a minor provocation. This is why you need conventional strength, so you have more options. options appropriate for smaller things, which do not end in mutual destruction. otherwise.. things get very dangerous very quickly. this is the reason nuclear armed countries still have conventional militaries. No, nukes are not enough. just think about it...
    Quote Originally Posted by dairyair View Post
    Is it? We leave Europe and some country decides to invade. We'd launch a nuke attack? Risking all out nuclear war? Is that what you think? Is that what you want?
    people who reason like you should never be in command of nukes, or any military for that matter... yes, if someone invades your ally, you respond with nukes, which leads to mutual destruction. This means that no one will invade your allies, so you will never need to use nukes. It is funny: by telling everyone you are prepared to use nukes, you will assure they will never be used. On the contrary, by saying things like you do, you are inviting people to provoke you, since they know you will never use nukes anyways, so they're no deterrance. People who reason like you, are people who can be bullied into submission.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dairyair View Post
    Is it? We leave Europe and some country decides to invade. We'd launch a nuke attack? Risking all out nuclear war? Is that what you think? Is that what you want?
    I think everyone's being super overdramatic because a non-US ally had a territory almost unanimously vote to leave it, for Russia. For some reason the left wing feels the need to sanction Russia for that.

    Other than that, there's nothing going on. Everyone needs to sack up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Throughout View Post
    Haha, Dude, these are russkie fascists [:
    This is Russia's imperial standards.
    Please don't treat me like a fool and we will get along in the future.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ArmySoldier View Post
    Those Islamic countries that protect terrorists can't afford the terrorists to get too out of control. Then they won't get money from the West...
    We fund many Islamic fundamentalist fighting groups. Have been doing this since the end of WW2.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hermes View Post
    We fund many Islamic fundamentalist fighting groups. Have been doing this since the end of WW2.
    I'm not sure how you're connecting pockets of extremists to a conventional world war.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ArmySoldier View Post
    I'm not sure how you're connecting pockets of extremists to a conventional world war.
    Islamic fundamentalist fighters or "terrorists" connected to a state actor could gain control of a bomb. If I were king of the world I'd have a magnifying glass over Pakistan 24/7.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ArmySoldier View Post
    I'm not sure how you're connecting pockets of extremists to a conventional world war.
    Again, war in the 21st century is fought via proxy. "Terrorists" are usually connect to a state actor. Not these "lone wolf' copycat guys but large organized attacks are basically intelligence operations. You think Al Qaeda isn't connected to a nation state? You think ISIS isn't connected to a nation state?
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