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Old 05-04-2004, 12:30 PM
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Ok first of all the BNP is not against skilled people who can contribute to our country,on the contrary we beleive that if people are hard working and law abiding then this is fine by us.
Secondly I would like to know who this so called radical new party is as democracy needs people with conviction. I look forward to you giving us the answeres.

So where does voluntary repatriation come from? Don't tell me no-where because it was in the BNP's last GE manifesto.
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Old 05-04-2004, 01:07 PM
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Like it say's it is voluntary,no one is going to forcefully remove peoplemwho are here legally,but we will remove those who have no legal right to be here,it's as simple as that.
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Old 05-04-2004, 01:49 PM
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Thankfully most people are anti it. It puts an onus on those of ethnic origin who are in this country to leave - which is wrong. If a policy like that is introduced then you will see thugs going around beating up people and forcing them to leave the country. Plus - the main point - which is that 80% of people of ethnic origin in this country were born here - so the countries you propose deporting them to are not their own. Britian is their home country. Fair enough I can accept you personally might not be a racist but there is a large majority within the BNP that is.

Besides, what immigrant - whatever generation - is willingly going to leave Britain having come here in the first place? Seems an ill thoughtout 'policy.' I'm still waiting for these boatloads of immigrants that we were told by the tabloids were all around Britains shores . The point is that many within the BNP don't think - it's all testosterone and hotheadedness.

The BNP are useful as a protest vote, but I don't like to see them gaining seats - it makes the whole of our proud British liberal democracy - like this electoral system, a complete shambles.
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First of all let me say that if I thought that the repercusions of my support of the BNP would result in packs of thugs going around attacking ethnic people I would leave the party tommorow.
I have said before and I will say again people who are here legally have nothing to fear from the BNP,but those who have no right to live here need to realise we will remove them asap.
I really think that having attended numerous meetings of my party we are nithing like the nazi ,racist bigots that is potrayed by the media.
Finally on a happier note I will announce now that I have decided to stand for my party the BNP in this june's elections,and even if I become last at least I will have had the courage of my convictions,and taken part in the democratic process.
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First of all let me say that if I thought that the repercusions of my support of the BNP would result in packs of thugs going around attacking ethnic people I would leave the party tommorow.
I have said before and I will say again people who are here legally have nothing to fear from the BNP,but those who have no right to live here need to realise we will remove them asap.
I really think that having attended numerous meetings of my party we are nithing like the nazi ,racist bigots that is potrayed by the media.
Finally on a happier note I will announce now that I have decided to stand for my party the BNP in this june's elections,and even if I become last at least I will have had the courage of my convictions,and taken part in the democratic process.
Who are there legally. Most of the people are there legally. If you mean the ones who work, then you can start kicking out the "native" ones who don't work, if thats what you mean with legally here.
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It has to be pointed out that the rise in the BNP is based on one small area and they attention they get compared to their votes is unreal.

At the last General Election for instance the BNP took 46,000 votes in England, less than 300 in wales and no votes at all in Scotland.

Compare this to The Socialist Alliance (55,000 in England, 2,500 in wales) The Socialist Labour Party (51,000 in England, 2,800 in wales, 3,000 in Scotland) or the Scottish Socialist Party (72,000 in scotland alone).

It seems that the SSP can gain more votes in Scotland than the BNP can in the whole of the UK. Yet when Le Pen visits the BNP it gets national coverage. When SSP leader Sheridan met Chavez, it gets no press whatsoever. Even though Sheridan represents a party bigger than the BNP and Chavez is a countrys leader not an opposition leader.

The SSP then went on to record over 130,000 votes in the Scottish elections. Where are the news stories about the rise of the left?

The BNP will concentrate all their efforts on a small pocket in the North West and possibly come away with a result but they are a very small fringe party with little or no structure and are not the threat people percieve them to be(electorally).

Ever visit their website? I advise that you do, they have a thing called policy forum which had me and my mates in stitches for a whole weekend. It was the funniest thing.

The press are being conned in to giving them coverage which makes them appear bigger than they actually are. At the last general election they were the sixteenth most popular party, behind SSP, SA, SLP, Sinn Fein, UUP Greens, Plaed Cymru and others. Hardly the stuff of revolution is it?
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Sorry Billy, but if you scratch beneath the surface of the BNP, you will find a lot of the old National Front - the neo - nazis and the holocaust deniers. The very fact that the BNP is a break away of the National Front shows their true colours.

Well done for participating in democracy all the same.
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billy, do you really think that the views of the BNP are acceptable. At the last election campaign, the BNP won there first ever right for a television broadcast. AS they could not be openly racist, it was just a man walking down a street surrounded by coloured people. The man was saying things like "our country is too full" and things like that. To me, the BNP have no basic grasp of human rights
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hrisFirst all thanks to jonblankfield for the last comment,now let me reply to chris,human rights cuts both ways ,what about the human rights of the indeginous population who are alarmed at the numbers of people coming in to their country.
No one speaks for them except us,like I said rights are a two way street.
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If the BNP just kick out illegal immigrants then it is no different from labour or the conseritives. The far-right isn't growing in size its already 80% of the goverment.
We have a 1/4 million job shortages, we need immagration.
Alan B - i take it this new party will attempt to sieze power instead of using the democratic system.
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