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Old 05-31-2004, 11:34 AM
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Let me if I may take up some of the points made recently,ok essex boy say's we are bullies well we wll know the real bullies are the u.a.f. thugs
Every time their is dissorder on the streets it is always those thugs who appear on the t v,they never stand for election themselves because they know they won't get a single council seat,no their sole purpose is to intimidate and frighten bnp members and supporters.
Then essex boy say's he resents the foreigners being given prefrentional treatment over his family,well if you resent it so much you should vote fopr the BNP.
Sorry if this seems harsh but you accept their is a problem but attack the party that is the only one who has the will to do something about it.
And finally if we do pick up lots of votes then that is due to the fact we are becoming more acceptable and also the goverment has totally failed on the immigration issue.
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Old 05-31-2004, 11:42 AM
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Let me saythat the signing of the human rights convention wes one of the worse things this goverment ever did.
It IS NOTHING MORE THAN A GRAVY TRAIN FOR SOLICITORS AND ASYLUM SEEKERS.
The goverment were warned this would lead to a explosion of litigation against the goverment.
Everything David Blunket tries to do when it comes to asylum is challenged by the lawyers under this terrible peice of legislation,our legal aid bill has shot up ever since we signed up and we the TAXPAYER is milked yet again.
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Old 05-31-2004, 11:48 AM
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Let me if I may take up some of the points made recently,ok essex boy say's we are bullies well we wll know the real bullies are the u.a.f. thugs
Every time their is dissorder on the streets it is always those thugs who appear on the t v,they never stand for election themselves because they know they won't get a single council seat,no their sole purpose is to intimidate and frighten bnp members and supporters.
Then essex boy say's he resents the foreigners being given prefrentional treatment over his family,well if you resent it so much you should vote fopr the BNP.
Sorry if this seems harsh but you accept their is a problem but attack the party that is the only one who has the will to do something about it.
And finally if we do pick up lots of votes then that is due to the fact we are becoming more acceptable and also the goverment has totally failed on the immigration issue.
Call me a sceptic if you like, but I can't help thinking that beneath the current veneer of respectactibility of the BNP lurks a bunch of boot boys. I'm not saying you are personally Billy Cotton, but i've met too many BNP supporters and members in my lifetime to tell me otherwise. I cannot lie. 99% of BNP supporters i've known have turned out to be thugs. If they weren't "tough" enough to dish out the beatings themselves they'd happily let others do so. While i'm not happy at current immigration policy I blame the politicians not the immigrants. You can hardly blame them for wanting a better life. It's true that the BNP are the most vocal against immigration and will probably pick up votes as a result. That is the fault of the mainstream parties for being weak on this issue. Voting for the BNP brings with it more than a resolution to the single issue of immigration, though I don't think they could resolve this issue. Taken as a whole I find the BNP's programme frightening.
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Billy, it's like you can't understand the whole history of the BNP. The BNP are racist bigots that's it, that's fact. The HRA was an excellent thing for this and any other civilised country which wishes to protect its citizens. The best thing you could do Billy if you really want to be serious on anti-immigration is join the Tories. Then at least you maybe taken seriously. I disagree with you but I will respect your views.

Life's too short for this crap.
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Let me say essex boy that I agree with you about not blaming the immigrants for wanting a better way of life,after all it is human nature to want to better yourself.
If you watched the bnp broadcast the other night you will have heard Nick G riffin say exactly the same .
Let me say that you and I agree that the mainstream HAVE failed on the immigration issue it's just that we take different choices in how to deal with it.
Finally can I say that although I have only been in the party 2 yrs I have attended many meetings here in S heffield and have certainly not met the kind of thugs you talk about,infact most of the people I meet are mind come from all walks of life,certainly not the tatood skinhead types you refer to.
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Sorry for the spelling in the last paragraph.
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Old 05-31-2004, 12:28 PM
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The tory party is a joke,Micheal Howard is just a opportunist,in fact the tories have let in more immigrants than the labour party.
Undre the last 2 tory goverments their were 2 amnisties for asylum seekers.something like 60,000 asylum seekers were let off and allowed to stay here so the tory party is the last party I would join.
They are like labour all talk and no action.
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there might actually be a reason for this? I.e. That the economy benefits from having more people doing the jobs that we don't want to do.
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Old 05-31-2004, 12:43 PM
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The people who come here I agree are largely unskilled people who will work for the minimumwage,but we still have over 1 million people who are unemployed,these people need to be brought to the labour market.
And before you say well they wont work for the minimun wage ,well if we come to power everyone who is able to work will work,if they dont we will stopp their benefits,it's that simple.
And of course we have the additional problems of finding these peope the houses to live in,we are a overcrowded island and finding the additional space for these people will in all probability mean having to build on greenfield sites.
This is certainly not beneficial to the enviroment or to the country at all.
No the only party which seeks to address these issues is the BNP,never the conservatives.
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The BNP will never come to power. Anyway stopping people's benefits is not the answer, then people just starve and will go homeless. You have to give people the incentive to work and that I'm afraid is a fine line.
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