Thread: Prominent Jewish Feminists...Steinem, Friedan, Abzug

[QUOTE=SFJEFF;1061543937]What is it about Feminism that you hate Lib?

I'll give a couple of the more prominent aspects of feminism that I as well as most Americans detest.

The fact that they wield all kinds of power in lobbying for and getting their lib co-conspirators in government to get them to fund via our tax monies any of their liberal/marxist policies, such as with that sandra fluke whore who pushed through her insistence that we tax payers pay for her promiscuity with the condom debate. Feminism, created by that witch Margaret Sanger has also pushed for public financing (taxpayers monies) to fund that horrible abortion mill known as Planned Parenthood. Btw, isn't that the perfect irony that they would call it Planned Parenthood since these women who will soon be murdering their unborns won't get to be 'PARENTS' in the first place. The feminist icon Margaret Sanger was also a racist/eugenicist who did want to eliminate the black race. You must be so proud of her and of her legacy.

The feminist push for an equal rights amendment is perhaps the most troubling aspect of the radical militant lesbo licking crowd since no one is ever going to have equal rights, nor should they. Equal opportunity is the only thing these harridans should be seeking. This equal rights agenda is just code for the current push for socialism where welath redistribution and class warfare take center stage. Its a push to dumb down America to where we lose our #1 standing in the world economically, financially, in education and militarily. I could go on and on about the destructive nature of this anti American crowd, but I'm going to leave it there for now.

Women being able to vote?

I'm all for women to vote so long as they show proof that they're all American patriotic Conservative women who seek to advocate for policies that help grow America.

Women being able to own property in their own right?

Who's not for that? One of the main items coming from our Founders and from our Constitution is the right to own land. However, this intrusive government that is slowly taking away our freedoms one by one has no hesitation in stripping many private land owners of their land in lieu of the govt's insistence that some wildlife such as the spotted owl is being endangered, or that the govt wants to preserve that land for some other govt entity or program--perhaps to save some tw0inch fish like they're doing out in California.

Women being able to decide whether or not to have sex with a man?

Say what? The only time a woman doesn't have the freedom to decide to have sex with a man might be when she's about to get raped and facing a brute who has a gun or knife in his possession.

Women not being considered property?

Do you live in America? When has a woman been considered to be property--other than back in the slave daze?

Women allowed to go around unveiled?

Interesting that you brought that up, for today's American feminists are no where to be found in criticizing the Muslim practice of that absurd ritual. And if we keep electing dems and libs to congress--we're going to soon have Sharia Law right here in America as you libs and feminists alike are soft of policies that fight radical Islamic traditions, and you're soft of our illegal immigration policy(s). But to date, I haven't seen any American women going around wearing a burka, have you?

Women being able to control whether she has a baby or not?

First of all, if the woman didn't want a baby in the first place, why would she wait until she got pregnant to decide to murder it? How many of the fathers-to-be were even asked if they wanted their child-to-be to be murdered? This abortion thing is just another in a long line of liberal policies aimed at destroying our American way and our American life. There isn't one single thing coming from a liberal or from a feminist that actually leads to the betterment of our American society...not one thing.

Women being able to get divorced without consent from her husband?

Divorce is a two-way road as the man and or the woman would need consent to get a divorce.

Women being able to hold political office?

When has that ever been a problem? But you do know that women didn't hold political office back in the day of our Founders, didn't you? I think that group of founding politicians did a pretty good job without the women making the decisions, don't you?

Women being able to go to college?

And is that a problem today? In fact, there are now more women attending higher institutions of learning than there are of men.

Women being in positions of authority?

How did that work out for America while Nancy Pelosi was the speaker? Again, its okay if the woman in question is Conservative, and I don't necessarily have a problem with radical lesbian bulldykes having the power and authority to dictate her sadomasochistic demands to her lesbian lover while she's being held in sexual slave bondage, but lets her out of any form of political power or authority.

[QUOTE=Libhater;1061546924]

Originally Posted by SFJEFF

What is it about Feminism that you hate Lib?

I'll give a couple of the more prominent aspects of feminism that I as well as most Americans detest.

The fact that they wield all kinds of power in lobbying for and getting their lib co-conspirators in government to get them to fund via our tax monies any of their liberal/marxist policies, such as with that sandra fluke whore who pushed through her insistence that we tax payers pay for her promiscuity with the condom debate. Feminism, created by that witch Margaret Sanger has also pushed for public financing (taxpayers monies) to fund that horrible abortion mill known as Planned Parenthood.

Here is where you first wander off the page that is reality. Planned parenthopod is not just about abortions. Abortion is a last-ditch effort when other birth-control methods fail or are circumvented by rapist scuzbags.

Btw, isn't that the perfect irony that they would call it Planned Parenthood since these women who will soon be murdering their unborns won't get to be 'PARENTS' in the first place.

Not a bit of it. There are a lot of women who have no desire to ever be parents. Are yougoing to insist that they should become cloistered nuns? That is really sick.

The feminist icon Margaret Sanger was also a racist/eugenicist who did want to eliminate the black race. You must be so proud of her and of her legacy.

There is no absolute evidence of that. She may not have thought most black peole the equal of whites, but that would have been partly the result of the superstitions prevailing in white culture at the time. It was not, really, one of her main interests as it is yours.

The feminist push for an equal rights amendment is perhaps the most troubling aspect of the radical militant lesbo licking crowd since no one is ever going to have equal rights, nor should they.

That statement is indefensible. No logical basis. Out of the wrong end of your torso. Try again when you have an argumentthat makes sense to a five-year old.

Equal opportunity is the only thing these harridans should be seeking.

Equal oppoprtunity does not exist in the absence of equal rights under the law.

This equal rights agenda is just code for the current push for socialism where welath redistribution and class warfare take center stage. Its a push to dumb down America to where we lose our #1 standing in the world economically, financially, in education and militarily. I could go on and on about the destructive nature of this anti American crowd, but I'm going to leave it there for now.

Utterly non-sequitur.

I'm all for women to vote so long as they show proof that they're all American patriotic Conservative women who seek to advocate for policies that help grow America.

But that is a sign of stupidity, because conservative ecconomic policies have always favored the rich over working people. That has to stop. Feminist insistance on equal pay for equal work benefits working class families and stops the investor class scum from unfairly and unjustly re-distributing wealth in a way that destroys families and weakens the moral fiber of the co(*)(*)(*)(*)ry

One of the main items coming from our Founders and from our Constitution is the right to own land.

And some of the more pig-headed of them made sure that that right was not exteded to women.

However, this intrusive government that is slowly taking away our freedoms one by one has no hesitation in stripping many private land owners of their land in lieu of the govt's insistence that some wildlife such as the spotted owl is being endangered, or that the govt wants to preserve that land for some other govt entity or program--perhaps to save some tw0inch fish like they're doing out in California.

No ratyional person would allow a land owner to do unwarranted damage to the commons. You do not have a right to pollute streams or so totally cut off the water that an entire population opf fish dies out. It would be suicidal for a society to recognize any such imaginary right.

Say what? The only time a woman doesn't have the freedom to decide to have sex with a man might be when she's about to get raped and facing a brute who has a gun or knife in his possession.

Or hewr husband may beat the crap out of her and throw her out on the street if she doesn't give it up every time he wants some. Extorting sex is still rape.

Do you live in America? When has a woman been considered to be property--other than back in the slave daze?

Women were not allowed to vote or divorce their husbands or own property in their own names after marriage, even after black men were allowed to do so.

Interesting that you brought that up, for today's American feminists are no where to be found in criticizing the Muslim practice of that absurd ritual. And if we keep electing dems and libs to congress--we're going to soon have Sharia Law right here in America as you libs and feminists alike are soft of policies that fight radical Islamic traditions, and you're soft of our illegal immigration policy(s). But to date, I haven't seen any American women going around wearing a burka, have you?

Pay attention. There are even feminist moivements in Muslim countries now. Wake up and read something from a source other than whatever raqg is now serving the functions of the defunct Voelkische Beobachter.

First of all, if the woman didn't want a baby in the first place, why would she wait until she got pregnant to decide to murder it?

It isn't murder and they did not "wait" in most cases. It just happened. Not your business why.

How many of the fathers-to-be were even asked if they wanted their child-to-be to be murdered?

If she did not consent to have a chiold with him, he has no right to make any decisions. Is that so hard to understand? There was even a case of a rapist suing to stop a woman from aborting the child he got with her. He should have been shot on the spot, because he was still raping her.

Divorce is a two-way road as the man and or the woman would need consent to get a divorce.

Horse feathers. Once a man get violent or starts doiunking around, he has no right to say that the woman hjas to stay with him. End of story. Any attempt to precvent her divorcing him is attempted rapew.. Buh-bye.

But you do know that women didn't hold political office back in the day of our Founders, didn't you? I think that group of founding politicians did a pretty good job without the women making the decisions, don't you?

No. They didn't abolish slaveryand give women the chance to contribute to the advancement of society.

How did that work out for America while Nancy Pelosi was the speaker? Again, its okay if the woman in question is Conservative, and I don't necessarily have a problem with radical lesbian bulldykes having the power and authority to dictate her sadomasochistic demands to her lesbian lover while she's being held in sexual slave bondage, but lets her out of any form of political power or authority.

Pelosi did a better job than Agent Orange and that insipid teatard Ryan. To say that only women who think like you should hold office is to eliminate 80% of the qualified women and only allow (*)(*)(*)(*)(*)es like the Coulter Critter or bat-crap crazies like Bachmann to serve. God help us all.

Originally Posted by Libhater

Not quite, but if you were go back and read it again you'll see that Evelyn Kaye gives her take on growing up as an orthodox jew and just what she witnessed and lived through as a girl. You do realize that 'feminisim' is the total creation of liberal/radical/militant jewish women, don't you? What more proof would you need?

I don't know much about feminist theory but I'm pretty sure it's been around longer than 40 or 50 years. It's probably been around as long as there's been a patriarchy I suppose.

As for the link with Jewish ultra-Orthodoxy, not sure about it. Again don't know much about Judaism but I do know it isn't monolithic and while there may be ultra-conservatives there are also progressives and of course secular Jews.

Which brings me to a Jewish joke I read in the paper at the weekend -

"There are three Jews travelling in a train and into their cabin come three Nazi soldiers," she begins. " 'You Jews are said to be very intelligent,' says one soldier to the group, 'so can you tell me your secret.'

'It's all in the diet,' replies one of the Jews. 'Specifically the consumption of herring heads. Look here are three herring heads, which I can sell you for three pfennigs.'

"The Nazis retire to their cabin to consume the herring heads. Minutes later there is a knock at the door of the Jews' cabin. One of the Nazis steps inside: 'You just sold me three herrings heads for three pfennigs," he says, swallowing his last mouthful. "But at the market I can get three whole herrings for that price.'

'See,' one of the Jews says to the others. 'It works already.' "

Originally Posted by Diuretic

I don't know much about feminist theory but I'm pretty sure it's been around longer than 40 or 50 years. It's probably been around as long as there's been a patriarchy I suppose.

As for the link with Jewish ultra-Orthodoxy, not sure about it. Again don't know much about Judaism but I do know it isn't monolithic and while there may be ultra-conservatives there are also progressives and of course secular Jews.

The Orthodox Jewish women would be the most likely to be radicals because they comer from a background of more severe repression.

Harriet Tubman once said "I could have freed a lot more if they knowed they were slaves."

It just takes longer to realize that you are being oppressed if nobody points it out.

Originally Posted by leftysergeant

I'll ignore the racist crap for a moment and just say that those who suffer most from an injustice are more likely to speak out against it first. You have failed to raise any point against radical feminism here.

The truth is, SOME Jews treat women like (*)(*)(*)(*). Some Muslims do so and many non Jews and non Muslims do so.

Originally Posted by SFJEFF

What is it about Feminism that you hate Lib?

Women being able to vote?
Women being able to own property in their own right?
Women being able to decide whether or not to have sex with a man?
Women not being considered property?
Women allowed to go around unveiled?
Women being able to control whether she has a baby or not?
Women being able to get divorced without consent from her husband?
Women being able to hold political office?
Women being able to go to college?
Women being in positions of authority?

Or maybe you just can't stand any of the 'feminism' that I have listed above- or any form of women being considered socially and legally the equals of men.

I certainly don't want to answer for lib, but I would like a chance to answer this. first, NONE of what you listed.

2ndly, this:

their ugly ugly attitudes
their ugly hate and sexism
their ugly lies
their promotion of all of their ugliness to the next generation

and last but not least, their right to breathe oxygen

enuff?

Originally Posted by Diogenes Lantern

I certainly don't want to answer for lib, but I would like a chance to answer this. first, NONE of what you listed.

2ndly, this:

their ugly ugly attitudes
their ugly hate and sexism
their ugly lies
their promotion of all of their ugliness to the next generation

and last but not least, their right to breathe oxygen

enuff?

Okay- so you really aren't against feminism- you just hate women who are feminists and promote femism

Because as you say- you are for all of the feminist issues- you just hate feminists.

Originally Posted by Libhater

[]What is it about Feminism that you hate Lib?

I'll give a couple of the more prominent aspects of feminism that I as well as most Americans detest.

The fact that they wield all kinds of power in lobbying for and getting their lib co-conspirators in government to get them to fund via our tax monies any of their liberal/marxist policies.........

Blah blah blah- your usual spiel about how you hate, hate, hate anything you dont' agree with.

Meanwhile- I found your explanations of why you have a real problem with allowing women to be in positions of authority, or to have birth control, about how you really aren't too cool with women being able to be elected, and only want 'right thinking women' to be able to vote.

Frankly your answers were pretty illuminating.

Please share them with all the women in your life, if there are any.

Originally Posted by leftysergeant

I'll ignore the racist crap for a moment and just say that those who suffer most from an injustice are more likely to speak out against it first. You have failed to raise any point against radical feminism here.

It does not appear Libhater meant to raise a point against Radical Feminosity, but rather to explain it to which it appears there are some solid points. Pendulum swings are balanced, so it makes sense that these females swung back as severely as they were pushed.

I haven't heard about Bella Abzug since I was a kid. She was a staple of NYC politics. Scarier than Lugosi.