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I support death penalty for rape. I also think all women should be packing at all times to try and prevent rape from happening.
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I agree, raping someone who's unconcious hardly defines you as the hardened criminals we want to keep in prison. A waste of tax payer money.
Lemme see if I'm reading this correctly...

Go to a bar and meet a member of the opposite sex. Engage her in conversation, and when she's not looking, add a chemical to her cocktail that will render her unconscious so that you can force yourself sexually upon her.

And that's not a "...hardened criminal we want to keep in prison"?

What if it was to happen to you? What if someone met you in a bar, drugged you and sodomized you - would you then think differently?
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Old 07-06-2008, 10:26 AM
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You've been raped while unconscious, have you?
Probably, you never know.

Seriously though, why should we waste tax payer money to cloth, feed and detain a nonviolent offender, unless a disease was transmitted?

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What if it was to happen to you? What if someone met you in a bar, drugged you and sodomized you - would you then think differently?
If one day I found out there was cock in my bum while I was asleep, I would be pleasently suprised by the $15 000 i will receive.

It's not like they can even remember it, the prison system is overcrowded at the moment, anyway.

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I support death penalty for rape.
They spend a long time in prison getting raped, beaten and stabbed almost daily, why bother to kill them?

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I also think all women should be packing at all times to try and prevent rape from happening.
I hope you're joking.
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Old 07-06-2008, 10:37 AM
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If one day I found out there was cock in my bum while I was asleep, I would be pleasently suprised by the $15 000 i will receive.
Will you accept a personal check?

The reason this style of rape is non-violent is because the victim is unconscious and unable to resist.

If I come up behind you, place a cloth soaked with chloroform over your nose, render you unconscious and steal your wallet - that is somehow a lesser offense than standing face-to-face and pulling a gun upon you?

I have no evidence other than my suspicions, but I suspect that something of that sort - being given a date rape drug - is what happened to Natalee Holloway in Aruba.

I agree though - criminals who perpetrate a crime of this sort don't need to be imprisoned, they need to be sent to a mental health facility (read: criminal asylum) for a long, long visit.
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Dumb idea.

For one thing, knocking someone out to rape them is VIOLENT. It involves physically overriding the will of the victim.

For another... victims should not receive rewards for victimhood. This creates too great an incentive for false accusation... Being that rape is already hard to prove- this will cast further doubt on most accusations even if it doesn't result in any real false accusations.

And then there's the problem that the perpetrator probably won't have the money... then he gets put in jail for not paying fines. I'd rather he go to prison for rape.
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For another... victims should not receive rewards for victimhood. This creates too great an incentive for false accusation... .
You know, I never really considered that.

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And then there's the problem that the perpetrator probably won't have the money... then he gets put in jail for not paying fines.
Yeah, that's true. Maybe you're right about this one.
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Dumb idea.

For one thing, knocking someone out to rape them is VIOLENT. It involves physically overriding the will of the victim.

For another... victims should not receive rewards for victimhood. This creates too great an incentive for false accusation... Being that rape is already hard to prove- this will cast further doubt on most accusations even if it doesn't result in any real false accusations.

And then there's the problem that the perpetrator probably won't have the money... then he gets put in jail for not paying fines. I'd rather he go to prison for rape.
Agreed. I can't visualize any circumstances where there isn't violence involved in rape. Like you said, it involves physically overriding the will of the victim.
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I have no evidence other than my suspicions, but I suspect that something of that sort - being given a date rape drug - is what happened to Natalee Holloway in Aruba.
No evidence it wasn't an accidental death.
However the death of George Smith on his honeymoon cruise on a Royal Caribbean ship was accompanied by the drugging of his wife - IMO by Rohypnol. It's reasonable to assume he was drugged also.
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Rape is violent. Forcing yourself on someone that doesn't want it is vilence. In my mind there is no such thing as a non violent rape. I mean think about it. If any of you was raped you'd think it was violent.
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Rape is violent. Forcing yourself on someone that doesn't want it is vilence. In my mind there is no such thing as a non violent rape. I mean think about it. If any of you was raped you'd think it was violent.
Agreed, all rapes are violent, and I have no idea how anyone - least of all another woman, could claim otherwise.
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