I often hear that society is sexist and biased against women in regards to how on average men get paid more than women for the work they perform. I am not talking about specific jobs but the average wage of a man compared to a woman.

Well i believe this is justified, women deserve less pay than men on average (not for doing the same jobs) before you all start burning your bra's, my reasoning is that in society there is only a certain number of jobs and of these jobs on average men get much more physically demanding jobs with much greater risks too their health and have to perform more over time whereas women tend to get easier jobs. Another factor is that any woman of child bearing age may need to have maternity pay also.

For it to be women getting paid the same would be blatant sexism.

The point you make needs some refinement - let me help

Equal pay for equal work

I can support that.

I employed accountants and pay them equally - no preference to gender race or religion -
The only point of difference - individual merit.

No dispensations for period pains or need to raise children - same as men get no dispensation for staying at home to look after children whilst mom is delivering new ones.
Employment is Employment - not a social club.
Employers are not responsible for an employees social welfare or family choices - and nor should they be.
An employer should be seeking the best individual to perform any job - regardless of gender etc.

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Employment is Employment - not a social club.

Not what some (male or female) want to hear, but that's exactly how it needs to be.

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Your statement is much too broad. "Women deserve less pay in the construction work force" MIGHT be appropriate. Yeah, it's true men are generally stronger and thus can do the work better on a construction site, but there are far too many jobs to simply say "women deserve less pay." Women are just as good, and many times better, than men in jobs that focus on intellect as opposed to brute strength, and it just so happens that "intellectual" jobs usually happen to pay higher than "strength" jobs

Women with post-secondary degrees tend to make more, not less, pay than men. Pay tends to be skewed in two ways...the skilled trades make more, and those with advanced degrees make more. Women are underrepresented in the skilled trades, true (and I think more women should consider those fields because they can do well in many of them...as electricians, for example, where women's hands are smaller and more dexterous than those of their male peers and where brute force isn't a requirement of the job), but they are OVERrepresented in positions requiring a degree.

And for women under age 35 with a degree, they SIGNIFCANTLY out-earn their male peers. So, I tend to believe that these studies which purport that women earn less tend to be a pretty skewed reading of the stats in regards to male/female earnings. Educated women who are young out-earn their male peers.

End of story.

So, what's the moral for women in all this? The education is the most crucial aspect of female pay equity.

Just speaking for myself, I've always out-earned my male peers.

Catz

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All these studies showing that women make 59c on the male dollar (actually, it's long since been raised to 74c on the male dollar) are comparing apples to oranges. What the studies are saying is that any woman with a job makes less on average than any man with a job (not that women make less than men for the same job)! The problem, then, is not some grand cosmic conspiracy to pay women less than men but, rather, it is a problem of figuring out how to socialize women to go for the higher-paying jobs.

I like the Swedish look of this.

In Sweden if a woman is pregnant, she'll be allowed to get off from work and still have a check coming in on the same amount of money she normally get's paid. And her husband or male partner, also gets time off, equal to that of the woman in labor.

Because it's his job to take care of her, while she is taking care of her unborn child.

By the way it's about two years off of work you are allow to have.

We could make it so that both members of sex are allowed to work as hard for a living and for the same pay.

And Sweden is still doing quite well with their economy too, might not be as great as the United States is, but why be so worried upon having the best economy? When what really matters is being happy with what you do for a living?

Kudos to the Swedes.

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I support paying people based on their I.Q., meaning that the man who started this thread should have money taken away from him each month.

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He's analyzing stats. I've had some exposure to business management heavily concerning individual wages and employment. Namely, the Staffing industry. For the same job, men and women get paid the same in most honest companies. Unfortunately, that isn't the reality. Many women lose productivity due to the menstrual cycle. Some even skip days of work. Another cold reality is that women are much, much, much more likely than men to have to quit/leave the business for an extended period of time due to maternity. Though it may strike you as offensive, I offer a similar position from an employer's point of view:

Why do teenagers get paid less on jobs than the older who do the same? Sure, you can bring up experience, wage need, etc... bu also factoring well into are the facts that minors tend to be much less productive on job, and have an extremely high chance of leaving the business entirely for educational or other reasons. We have no fret with paying minors less than adults however. These reasons are ambiguous for comparing men to women in the general work-force, but more towards service/packaging industries. I can speak little on other sectors of the economy.

In closing, he's not beeing stupid or anything, he's simply being a business man

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