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The shrewdness of the Zionist Israeli government is beyond imagination.

Israeli leaders have managed to outsmart the world in the way they conduct politics. One of their craftiest and most successful epics is the myth of Zionism as a positive ideology that has contributed to the preservation of Jewish nationalism and Jewish interests.

The argument is too simple, an ideology that resulted from mixing Fascist European teachings and Jewish racial supremacy with a light touch of early Zionist creatively and manipulation, can never be positive.

Although many don't even dare to repeat the thought in their heads, save uttering it in public, the Zionist ideology is pure Jewish racial supremacy, not Jewish nationalism as some claim. What else would you call ethnic cleansing of the Palestinian people, and the alliance between the Israeli government and religious institutions to keep the Jewish race pure? Such purity is the ultimate and the most determining factor that distinguishes an Arab from a Jew in Israel, or a Jew from a more or less pure Jew.

It's appalling that such blunt racism is dealt with so openly, as if it is just a normal affair that every nation has the right to embrace if it wishes. The endless debate on "who is a Jew?" which is often featured in the New York Times, and which occupies the time and efforts of Israelis in the government, media and religious institutions, is perceived as if it is merely innocent cultural dialogue.

How many Americans are going to be happy if they hear that the US government, churches and media are busy debating how can they keep the "white" race pure, and that every new immigrant to this country has to present a certificate proving that he is the descendant of a white family, otherwise he has no rights for citizenship, no rights for ownership, no rights at all.

In Israel, this has and will always be the case. Yet the aggravating double standards make many of us pass through this disturbing fact as if no harm was done.

The relations between the Zionist settlement in Palestine and the ethnic cleansing of Palestinians is an issue that was put forth repeatedly by the leading Zionist intellectuals since the coming about of the notorious movement.

No one can state it clearer than Prominent Israeli visionary Yeshaauahu Ben Porat. In 1972, Ben Porat was quoted by the daily Israeli newspaper Yediot Aharanot as saying, "There is no Zionist settlement, and there is no Jewish State, without displacing Arabs and without confiscating lands and fencing them off."

In 1973, David Hacohen, Israeli Chairman of the Foreign Affairs Committee of the Knesset clarified that the issue of displacing Arabs was not simply meant to use Arab homes for Jewish immigrants from Europe during the WWII. The reason is much simpler. It's simply because, "they are not human beings, they are not people, they are all Arabs."

The Israel government confirmed and adopted the racist principals of Zionism in 1950, when the Israeli Knesset passed the Law of Return.

The deceptive name is meant to generate an emotional reaction of an innocent like you, but the law has in reality given Jews from all over the world the right to go and live in Palestine with full citizenship privileges. On the other hand, it passed the Absentee Property Law, seizing the land and properties of Palestinian refugees who were expelled or forced to flee.

Understanding the shameful reality of present day Israel can be furthered by pondering this quote by the respected Jewish writer Uri Davis: It is "not only the Palestinian non-Jew who is excluded from his or her rights to an undisputed citizenship. Large categories of Jews are similarly excluded: Jewish bastards, Jewish persons born to non Jewish mothers, Jewish persons born to Jewish mothers who converted to another religion, and non-Jewish converted to Judaism by conservative or reform rabbis as only Jewish orthodox conversion procedures are recognized in Israel."

Despite all of the this, Western media still raves and even proudly praises the racism of Israel, dubbing it often as the "Jewish State". Those who "dare to speak out" against such vulgarity are rebuffed by the same media who is quick to unleash the ever successful strategy of Anti Semitism, a deceptive tactic that is meant to defer the world's attention from the ethnic cleansing of Palestinians, and the murderous campaign launched against them.

Thanks to the naivete planted in people's minds by decades of media deception, and thanks to the intimidation and constant harassment of intellectuals and ordinary citizens who question Israel's racism and brutality, not so many people question Israel's policies.

What does anti-Semitism have to do with Israel's human rights violations?

Aren't Arabs and other nations Semitic as well? How can an Arab be anti Semitic? Anti himself?

Why is racism applauded in Israel and criticized elsewhere?

What sin have the Palestinian people committed to be driven out of their lands and "fenced off"?

Why is the American government funding an apartheid state like Israel?

Who is more deserving of American tax money: racist settlers equipped with automatic riffles chasing behind Palestinian children in Gaza's refugee camps, or America's poor, America's welfare programs, disease research centers, and under-funded schools?

Doesn't the Bible state, "blessed are those who hunger and thirst for righteousness for they shall be satisfied"?

Let the Quran, the Bible and the principals of truth and justice be your guide, not the endless lies of Zionism and Zionists, who are with no doubt, the world's masters of deception.
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More Muslem BS crap. Is there a website that you can go on and just copy dumbass Muslem propaganda ?! You all seem to post the same ones

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The shrewdness of the Zionist Israeli government is beyond imagination.
All you Muslems call us "shrewd". Is that a bad thing to be ?! Almost have to be shrewd in order to survive the constant attempts by Muslems to disolve Israel. Simply can't wait to instill sharia on the birthplace of Judaism and Christianity, can you ?!

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One of their craftiest and most successful epics is the myth of Zionism as a positive ideology that has contributed to the preservation of Jewish nationalism and Jewish interests.
But it is !! It's just not positive for Muslem interests, namely rueling the world. And now we are "crafty" ?! And what is the other option, Jews spread amongst the nations ?! Kiss my Jewish ass Islam

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The argument is too simple, an ideology that resulted from mixing Fascist European teachings and Jewish racial supremacy with a light touch of early Zionist creatively and manipulation, can never be positive.
But it has NOTHING to do with Jewish racial superiority !! We want seperation because you keep trying to kill us and if all is open you would destroy us in sheer numbers. There are 5 million or so Jews in Israel and 130 or so million Arabs. Not hard to do the math. So it's nothing about "racial superiority", it's about surviving the Borg that is Islam. And it is positive. I live here in Jerusalem and it's very positive, just not for Muslem interests. You have plenty of land and people. I don't see why I should cow tow to you. And if you want to speak about racial superiority, let's talk about Islam's view of itself and the policies of Saudi Arabia !!!

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What else would you call ethnic cleansing of the Palestinian people, and the alliance between the Israeli government and religious institutions to keep the Jewish race pure?
But that's just it, ARABS HAVE PLENTY OF LAND !!! This isn't "ethnic cleansing", it's seperation. It's not that we want to rule over Arabs, it's that we want to be seperated. Long before 48 Arabs have been killing Jews in this land. Enough is enough. You have your land, we have ours, end of story. How can it be ethnic cleansing when Gaza is the most populous area in the world ?! If anything, the Palestinian population is exploding. How stupid do you have to be to think that a population that is exploding is somehow being ethnically cleansed !!

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It's appalling that such blunt racism is dealt with so openly
You mean like Saudi Arabia ?! You are welcome to worship as you please and even live here, but as far as citizenship, it's a Jewish state, but even that is possible, just takes time (about 7 years). Try saying that about Saudi Arabia or sharia countries in general.

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endless debate on "who is a Jew?"
Apparently you haven't read the Talmud. It's all discussions ad nauseum about some of what would appear to be trivial issues. Part of the reason that Yeshiva students make excellent lawyers. But as the author of this article is not Jewish, he has nothing to worry about.

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How many Americans are going to be happy if they hear that the US government, churches and media are busy debating how can they keep the "white" race pure
There are 14 million Jews in the world on a good day. Somehow I think the US' issues are going to be a little different than the Jewish states'. Besides, does the US have neighbors promissing to drive it into the sea ?! Different issues I'm affraid.

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Yet the aggravating double standards make many of us pass through this disturbing fact as if no harm was done.
Like Saudi Arabia ?! I think most of the world understands exactly why Israel is the way it is. Stop promissing to eradicate us and there won't be an issue. Unless you really want to talk about non-Muslems' rights in a Muslem society !! It's called being a Dhimmi and it ain't pretty.

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No one can state it clearer than Prominent Israeli visionary Yeshaauahu Ben Porat. In 1972, Ben Porat was quoted by the daily Israeli newspaper Yediot Aharanot as saying, "There is no Zionist settlement, and there is no Jewish State, without displacing Arabs and without confiscating lands and fencing them off."
Anything more current ? Israel is dedicated to a 2 State solution. If not we could have booted every last Palestinian out of here at any time. Israel has stated it's 2 state solution goals repeatedly. And as far as displacing Arabs, that's what the partition means !! Jews left the West Bank and Gaza and Arabs left Israel proper. Not only that, but Arab countries deported their Jewish communities to the tune of over 100,000 displaced Jews. No compensation !! Israel took in every last one that wanted to live in Israel !! So why is it that 55+ years later Palestinians are still considered "refugees" ?! Name another group considered refugees after 55+ years. There are none !! So get off your self rightous "displacement" horse and realize that this is what partition means, that you did the same to the Jewish community, and that you are the world's worst hypocrites !!

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In 1973, David Hacohen, Israeli Chairman of the Foreign Affairs Committee of the Knesset clarified that the issue of displacing Arabs"they are not human beings, they are not people, they are all Arabs."
The partition plan was devised by the Brits long befor WW2. What do you think the Balfour Decleration was ?! It was written long before WW2. And do you know why ? Cuz Arabs where slaughtering Jews in Israel. Jews living on farms baught legally where routinely attacked by Arab marauders. Arabs where chucking hand grenades into Jewish nurseries, etc etc. So regardless of this guy's personla feelings about Arabs, bottom line is that there was a partition. Jews where removed from Arab lands and vice versa. The fact that Israel is still 20% Arab is interesting. Want to guess what % of the population of the Palestinian territory is Jewish ?!

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The Israel government confirmed and adopted the racist principals of Zionism in 1950, when the Israeli Knesset passed the Law of Return.

The deceptive name is meant to generate an emotional reaction of an innocent like you, but the law has in reality given Jews from all over the world the right to go and live in Palestine with full citizenship privileges.
I'm surprised it took 2 years to ratify. Then again I'm certain the Knesset was busy fighting off 5 Arab armies for the initial period !! And as for right of return, IT'S A JEWISH STATE !!! Arabs can go to the Palestinian territories and Jews to Israel. And you calling Israel "Palestine", as if it belongs to Palestinians is funny. Palestinians didn't call themselves that until very recently. And the last time their was a sovreign country in this region, it was the Israelite kingdom up until the Roman conquest !! This was NOT "Palestinian" land. It was Ottoman (Turkish) land. The Brit's conquered it in WW1 and patitioned it. Grow up !! Time to accept your role in why this happened !!

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On the other hand, it passed the Absentee Property Law, seizing the land and properties of Palestinian refugees who were expelled or forced to flee.
"Forced to flee" my ass. They stepped aside so that the advancing Arab armies could slaughter the Jews of Israel more easily. They get nothing back. That's right !! And the fact that you still don't understand the term "partition" is scary. And the fact that Arab countries deported their Jewish communities without compensation, yet you complain about Jews doing it to Arabs is such the double standard hypocratic pile of cow chips, that you should win the propaganda blue ribbon awards hands down !!

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respected Jewish writer Uri Davis: It is "not only the Palestinian non-Jew who is excluded from his or her rights to an undisputed citizenship. Large categories of Jews are similarly excluded: Jewish bastards, Jewish persons born to non Jewish mothers, Jewish persons born to Jewish mothers who converted to another religion, and non-Jewish converted to Judaism by conservative or reform rabbis as only Jewish orthodox conversion procedures are recognized in Israel."
First and foremost. What do you care ?!?!! This is an internal Jewish discussion. 2nd, even non-Jews can (it takes some time) become citizens. So can almost all the categories you've mentioned. But Judaism goes down from the maternal side, just like in Christianity it's paternal. And as far as orthodox Vs conservative, even this has become more lax. But bottom line is still .. why do you care ?!! Can I become a citizen of Saudi Arabia ?! Would I be given equal citizenship in ANY sharia country ?! Answer to both is NO. Keep up the hypocracy !!

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Despite all of the this, Western media still raves and even proudly praises the racism of Israel, dubbing it often as the "Jewish State".
As a Jew living here I'm proud as well !! "Palestinians" are nothing more than Arab Muslems (with a few Christians thrown in). Look at a map of the Middle East and tell me this group lacks land !! They are simply greedy and religiously unbending. And if you want to speak of racism just look at the laws Hamas would implement if they installed sharia like they have promissed !! ISLAM IS THE MOST VIOLENT & RACIST RELIGION ON EARTH !!!!

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Those who "dare to speak out" against such vulgarity are rebuffed by the same media who is quick to unleash the ever successful strategy of Anti Semitism, a deceptive tactic that is meant to defer the world's attention from the ethnic cleansing of Palestinians, and the murderous campaign launched against them.
They are only anti-Jewish if they focus ONLY on the Israeli side of the issue !! Taken in context, Israel is actually quite open. I could never say the same about Muslem societies. The fact that Muslems and Arabs are continually attempting to wipe Israel off the map may just account for some other issues. And as for "ethnic cleansing" ... THE PALESTINIANS HAVE A POPULATION EXPLOSION !! You have to be full on retarded to call a population explosion "ethnic cleansing". Palestinians go to Palestine, Jews to Israel. How hard is that numbnuts ?!!! And as for murderous campaigns, are you refering to the daily launching of rockets from Gaza at Israeli civilian centers in Southern Israel ?! Or blowing up busses and discos and restaurants and religious festivities etc ec etc ?!!

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constant harassment of intellectuals and ordinary citizens who question Israel's racism and brutality, not so many people question Israel's policies.
First off all there is plenty of open questioning of Israel's policies. Secondly intelectuals on college campuses have been championing divestment from Israel in a pathetic attempt to hurt Israel and it's image. And the fact that people don't question too much is because they see how Islam behaves around the world and are amazed that Israel is still alive today. But we are, despite terrorist tactics and propaganda such as this !!

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What does anti-Semitism have to do with Israel's human rights violations?

Aren't Arabs and other nations Semitic as well? How can an Arab be anti Semitic? Anti himself?
I've been saying this for years. They aren't anti-semites, they are anti-Jews. Happier now ?!!! And as far as human right violations, when was the last time a Palestinian or Muslem was prosecuted by Palestinians/Muslems for violations against Israelis/Jews ?! Happpens in Israel all the time !! So take that argument and cram it with the rest of this BS article.

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Why is racism applauded in Israel and criticized elsewhere?
It's not racism, it's seperation (partition). Palestinians have their land and so do Jews. Da end !!

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What sin have the Palestinian people committed to be driven out of their lands and "fenced off"?
The Jews from the territories are just about completely in Israel and yet 20% of Israel is Arab. I think you have this backwards. And as for their sins, they've been trying to kill me in the name of Allah for coming on a century (actually much longer then that). Don't trust them. Can't !! Look at Islam's violent tendencies all over the world and then imagine it focussed on a country the size of New Jersy. Besides which, WHY IS IT OK FOR ARABS TO DEPORT JEWS WITHOUT COMPENSATION, BUT NOT FOR JEWS TO RELOCATED ARABS WHEN THE LAND HAS BEEN PARTITIONED ?!!! Are Arabs more special that Jews ?! Should they be treated better than Jews ?!

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Why is the American government funding an apartheid state like Israel?
Maybe because it's not an "apartheid state" !! It's a seperation state. Arabs have Palestine and Jews have Israel. And as there has not been a single administration that has been anti-Israel, I feel fairly confident that they are making very competent decisions. Besides which, Israel is really the US' only ally in the region. Who else do they trust here ?! Saudi Arabia ?! LOL

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Who is more deserving of American tax money: racist settlers equipped with automatic riffles chasing behind Palestinian children in Gaza's refugee camps, or America's poor, America's welfare programs, disease research centers, and under-funded schools?
Oh my lord. Pulling the old heart cords with socialist crap ?! LOL. The US supports tons of countries both financially and militarilly. Plenty of those are Arab and Muslem states. So why are you focussing on Israel ?! Stop funding Egypt .. they hate your guts !! Stop funding Iraq (more is spent there in a year than all aid to Israel over the years combined) .. they hate your guts. Stop supporting Saudi Arabia, they are exporting Wahabi Islam (very radical) right to the US ... and they hate your guts. Shall I continue ?!

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Doesn't the Bible state, "blessed are those who hunger and thirst for righteousness for they shall be satisfied"?
And the Talmud says "he who stands up to kill you, stand up and kill him first". Besides, don't quote the bible when he Qoran commands the spread of Islam, by force if necessary, until the world is under Islamic control (Dar al Islam). Hypocricy thy name is Islam. And more importantliy, Islam is never satisfide. Strive for righteousness yourself and grow up. Learn to deal with the partition. Stop killing innocents. Stop teaching your children to hate !! The only thing you are is self righteous.

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Let the Quran, the Bible and the principals of truth and justice be your guide, not the endless lies of Zionism and Zionists, who are with no doubt, the world's masters of deception.
I'd like to shed doubt on this. Just look at this article. What is it really adocating ?! A 1 state solution !!! Why would it do that ?! If you think it's so that Jews and Muslems can snuggle up together you are 2 sanwiches shy of a picnic !! Arafat already stated that Arabs will conquer Israel by "the Arab womb". This is a thinly veiled call to disolve the state of Israel by demographic means since the violent way doesn't seam to be working. Nice try !!
The fact that you never respond to my responses, Malvo, is a fairly clear indication that this is pure propaganda. You are simply cut and pasting articles that you don't even provide a link to. No author's name. Full of misquotes and unsubstantiated accusations. I am going to take a wild guess and say that you are braindead Muslem pushing braindead propaganda. Please prove me wrong. Looking forward.
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The shrewdness of the Zionist Israeli government is beyond imagination.

Israeli leaders have managed to outsmart the world in the way they conduct politics. One of their craftiest and most successful epics is the myth of Zionism as a positive ideology that has contributed to the preservation of Jewish nationalism and Jewish interests.

The argument is too simple, an ideology that resulted from mixing Fascist European teachings and Jewish racial supremacy with a light touch of early Zionist creatively and manipulation, can never be positive.

Although many don't even dare to repeat the thought in their heads, save uttering it in public, the Zionist ideology is pure Jewish racial supremacy, not Jewish nationalism as some claim. What else would you call ethnic cleansing of the Palestinian people, and the alliance between the Israeli government and religious institutions to keep the Jewish race pure? Such purity is the ultimate and the most determining factor that distinguishes an Arab from a Jew in Israel, or a Jew from a more or less pure Jew.

It's appalling that such blunt racism is dealt with so openly, as if it is just a normal affair that every nation has the right to embrace if it wishes. The endless debate on "who is a Jew?" which is often featured in the New York Times, and which occupies the time and efforts of Israelis in the government, media and religious institutions, is perceived as if it is merely innocent cultural dialogue.

How many Americans are going to be happy if they hear that the US government, churches and media are busy debating how can they keep the "white" race pure, and that every new immigrant to this country has to present a certificate proving that he is the descendant of a white family, otherwise he has no rights for citizenship, no rights for ownership, no rights at all.

In Israel, this has and will always be the case. Yet the aggravating double standards make many of us pass through this disturbing fact as if no harm was done.

The relations between the Zionist settlement in Palestine and the ethnic cleansing of Palestinians is an issue that was put forth repeatedly by the leading Zionist intellectuals since the coming about of the notorious movement.

No one can state it clearer than Prominent Israeli visionary Yeshaauahu Ben Porat. In 1972, Ben Porat was quoted by the daily Israeli newspaper Yediot Aharanot as saying, "There is no Zionist settlement, and there is no Jewish State, without displacing Arabs and without confiscating lands and fencing them off."

In 1973, David Hacohen, Israeli Chairman of the Foreign Affairs Committee of the Knesset clarified that the issue of displacing Arabs was not simply meant to use Arab homes for Jewish immigrants from Europe during the WWII. The reason is much simpler. It's simply because, "they are not human beings, they are not people, they are all Arabs."

The Israel government confirmed and adopted the racist principals of Zionism in 1950, when the Israeli Knesset passed the Law of Return.

The deceptive name is meant to generate an emotional reaction of an innocent like you, but the law has in reality given Jews from all over the world the right to go and live in Palestine with full citizenship privileges. On the other hand, it passed the Absentee Property Law, seizing the land and properties of Palestinian refugees who were expelled or forced to flee.

Understanding the shameful reality of present day Israel can be furthered by pondering this quote by the respected Jewish writer Uri Davis: It is "not only the Palestinian non-Jew who is excluded from his or her rights to an undisputed citizenship. Large categories of Jews are similarly excluded: Jewish bastards, Jewish persons born to non Jewish mothers, Jewish persons born to Jewish mothers who converted to another religion, and non-Jewish converted to Judaism by conservative or reform rabbis as only Jewish orthodox conversion procedures are recognized in Israel."

Despite all of the this, Western media still raves and even proudly praises the racism of Israel, dubbing it often as the "Jewish State". Those who "dare to speak out" against such vulgarity are rebuffed by the same media who is quick to unleash the ever successful strategy of Anti Semitism, a deceptive tactic that is meant to defer the world's attention from the ethnic cleansing of Palestinians, and the murderous campaign launched against them.

Thanks to the naivete planted in people's minds by decades of media deception, and thanks to the intimidation and constant harassment of intellectuals and ordinary citizens who question Israel's racism and brutality, not so many people question Israel's policies.

What does anti-Semitism have to do with Israel's human rights violations?

Aren't Arabs and other nations Semitic as well? How can an Arab be anti Semitic? Anti himself?

Why is racism applauded in Israel and criticized elsewhere?

What sin have the Palestinian people committed to be driven out of their lands and "fenced off"?

Why is the American government funding an apartheid state like Israel?

Who is more deserving of American tax money: racist settlers equipped with automatic riffles chasing behind Palestinian children in Gaza's refugee camps, or America's poor, America's welfare programs, disease research centers, and under-funded schools?

Doesn't the Bible state, "blessed are those who hunger and thirst for righteousness for they shall be satisfied"?

Let the Quran, the Bible and the principals of truth and justice be your guide, not the endless lies of Zionism and Zionists, who are with no doubt, the world's masters of deception.
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"The argument is too simple, an ideology that resulted from mixing Fascist European teachings and Jewish racial supremacy with a light touch of early Zionist creatively and manipulation, can never be positive."

This part of your argument is very inaccurate. Jews invented COMMUNISM as a means to enslave and psychologically condition MASSIVE populations of non-Jews for the specific purpose of Jewish oligarchical profiteering. Their racism orginated in their primitive, ancient tribalism. If anything, European fascism attempted to rid the world of their treacherous presence.
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you learned that Marx was a Jew, right? Certainly you learned that Hitler therefore considered Jews and Communists one--in--the--same, right? And of course you learned that Marx' father sought to protect his family from German anti-Semitism by effecting a false conversion of the family to Lutheranism, which it never actually practiced, right? And of course you learned that there were indeed many, many JEWS in the Bolshevik movement, which caused much of the Western world to wonder if Hitler was right, right? And of course you learned that many Israeli nationalists, such as David Ben Gurion himself, ADMIRED Bolshevism and emulated much of its program in the their establishment of early Israel, right? ALL OF THIS IS COMMON FARE TO ANY STUDY OF WESTERN HISTORY.
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And of course you learned that there were indeed many, many JEWS in the Bolshevik movement, which caused much of the Western world to wonder if Hitler was right, right?
There where also many many non Jews. Maybe Hitler should have taken them out as well. But Jews would be part of this movement because it promissed reprieve from an incredibly opressivle regime that allowed and even promoted random violence against Jews. Fiddler on the Roof 101is in order for you WJ. Face it, Hitler focussed on Jews as a historically targeted minority. He prayed on the same sentiments as you do .. that you are somehow elite to others. Jews just tend to be an easy target for sick twisted insecure nutjobs like that.

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And of course you learned that many Israeli nationalists, such as David Ben Gurion himself, ADMIRED Bolshevism and emulated much of its program in the their establishment of early Israel, right?
Yes I did. Like you said .. early Israel. Early Israel was made up of many people that came from Russia and where involved with the Communist movement because it saught to overthrow the Czarist regime. Many Russians agreed with them. Israel is still a pretty socialist country in healthcare and education. That's cuz we take care of each other. And what exactly is wrong with communism .. other than the fact that it doesn't work ?! It's a nice concept in theory, just doesn't motivate individual achievement in the long run.

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ALL OF THIS IS COMMON FARE TO ANY STUDY OF WESTERN HISTORY.
I guess we didn't focuss on the Jooo aspect of these historical events. And apparently you don't understand contextual circumstances.

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You mean like saying that you are elite to others or that white Christians are the chosen ones by God ?! You need a bit of practice on the humility thing yourself there good buddy.
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"I guess we didn't focuss on the Jooo aspect of these historical events. And apparently you don't understand contextual circumstances."

You're denying EVERYTHING. Go figure. Is everthing so 'contextual' you see NO FAULT AT ALL in your people? You're wearing blinders. You're not a good source on Zionism. Your bias is king-sized. And what's wrong with Communism? How about the tens of millions it slaughtered under madmen such as Stalin, Pol Pot, Castro and Mao Zedong? Don't those lives count?

If the fight for the White Christian world is 'elitist', which it isn't, then yes, I am an elitist. BUT, what's really at the heart of that allegation is anti-White racism and anti-Christian bigotry, standard features of political correctness and The Underman's assault on Western society. Modern Man has judged White assertion of any kind to be contemptible, if not illegal. This is yet further proof of Jewish subterfuge. The Jews have undermined us from within, particularly in the United States, where they hold sway moreso than any other political force.
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You're denying EVERYTHING. Go figure. Is everthing so 'contextual' you see NO FAULT AT ALL in your people?
I see no fault in a former Jew turned Lutherna, or anybody else for that matter, inventing Communism !! That's right !! It's an alternative socio-economic system. I don't believe that it works, but it's not "evil" as you make it out to be. In fact it's rather nice, just ineffective. It works on a small scale for short periods of time, like communal farms etc, but not as a national structure.
And I don't deny everything. I didn't deny that a good chunk of the Billionares are Jewish. I don't deny that many Jews where communists. I just said that neither thing is "evil" as you have portrayed it.
And as far as guilt is concerned ... GUILTY OF WHAT ?!!!

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Is everthing so 'contextual' you see NO FAULT AT ALL in your people?
In fact I see incredibly little !! That's why I have no issues defending my nation. Compared to YOU, we are absolute angels !!

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You're not a good source on Zionism.
And you don't even know what it means !!! You always associate it with controling the world. It's about a Jewish State in the place where the Jewish nation was founded. Period.

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And what's wrong with Communism? How about the tens of millions it slaughtered under madmen such as Stalin, Pol Pot, Castro and Mao Zedong? Don't those lives count?
First off those where not what Marx and Engles where talking about when they descrbed the evolution of Communism. Communism was meant to arrise in an indusrial capitalistic country where the masses where held down by the privilidged and the capital was concentrated among the few. Not so crazy. Where does the Communist Manifesto ever talk about killing people ? That was a country by country decision.
Secondly. HOW ABOUT THE MILLIONS THAT THE CATHOLIC CHURCH HAS KILLED ?! How amazingly conceited of you !! Who's wearing blinders again ?!!

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If the fight for the White Christian world is 'elitist', which it isn't, then yes, I am an elitist.
Good bigot, I'm glad we ot that out of the way. It IS elietist and it is bigoted. "God chose us and we are above Jews blacks and immigrants". You are a bigot !! Period. Even your own Church would never associate itself with your views. You never do speak about the Pope appologizing to the Jews for things you still accuse us of ... why is that ?!!! Was the Vicar of Christ wrong ?!!!!

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BUT, what's really at the heart of that allegation is anti-White racism and anti-Christian bigotry, standard features of political correctness and The Underman's assault on Western society.
I'M WHITE NUMBNUTS !!! It's an assult on little boys who think they are better than everyone else and are owed something. Who don't want to compete on an even playing field because God supposedly said that they are owed something. It's the mentality that enslaves millions. It's the mentality that has killed millions. It's wrong and disgusting. Claiming not to be an elietist and then speaking of Uberpeople ?! I don't believe in uberpeople ..that's YOUR paranoid delusion.
Also .. Western Society does not = White Christianity. Again, bigoted elietist view of history and the world.
And as far as "anti-Christian bigotry" ... ARE YOU INSANE ?!!! The Church has been the most bigotted power center to ever hold sway on this planet. It discriminates against all but its male members. Has gotten better over the years. You haven't.

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Modern Man has judged White assertion of any kind to be contemptible, if not illegal. This is yet further proof of Jewish subterfuge.
It's not "White assertion" that is being judged .. it's white elietism !! It's the desire of white men like you to have special prvilidge over others that is the problem. And in the USofA, IT IS ILLEGAL !!! the US does not belong to you. "All men are created equal" .. remember that ?!!

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This is yet further proof of Jewish subterfuge.
The fact that you, white boy, don't get special privilages in a country where "all men are created equal" is proof of "Jewish subterfuge" ?!! How is that proof ?!! It's proof that you hate Jews and look at them to displace your anger. Pathetic really for a middle aged man with a supposed education.

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The Jews have undermined us from within, particularly in the United States, where they hold sway moreso than any other political force.
A larger political force than Christianity ?! Have you ever run for pulic office ?! If not, then maybe you should. Sound like that's what Jews do. Get involved instead of comlaining .. and I don't mean hiding in the woods with guns. Get a life !!
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