It is unfortunate that not everyone at UC Irvine is looking to maintain the best of relations with the Muslim Student Union because of what it naturally stands for. A good question to ask ourselves however, is what it is exactly we stand for that may make other clubs on campus uneasy or hostile towards us. I firmly believe that thing that makes them so angry is actually a core foundation of our Islamic identities. This foundation is the principal of justice in Islam.

As Muslims it is our duty to stand up for the oppressed whomever they may be (Muslim or non-Muslim). So when we do something, we must remember that it is for the sake of our Lord alone. If our actions are based on the pleasure of other people, then we will have the displeasure of our Lord; and if our actions are at the displeasure of people but are carried out for the sake of our Lord, then we will have our Lord’s pleasure. I ask which is better?

In context of having different events and programs on campus, it is true that we do need to be very careful of the terminology we use, but not for the sake of appeasing other clubs on campus. We must ask ourselves why exactly we have bad relations with these clubs. Is it because we just want to make everyone around us enemies?…of course not. It is because these clubs stand for and have a long history of advocacy of injustice, the very opposite of what a Muslim should be standing up for. In fact, it would not make sense for there to not be tensions among us. If there are good relations, it would mean that one side had essentially compromised their stance (Israeli advocacy clubs are very much welcome to give up their support of injustice!).

Now someone may ask “Why don’t we just compromise our stance for the sake of diplomacy among the clubs on campus?” I hate to be dramatic about this but we need a little wake up call. Are the Palestinian people not our brothers and sisters? Would we be willing to look at all the suffering of the Palestinian people and then say, “We can’t (at the very least) speak out against this oppression because that would ruin relationships with or anger other clubs on our campus.” We need to remember that our priorities lie first and foremost with the oppressed peoples of this world (Muslim or non-Muslim) and if other clubs are going to stand in our way, we are going to need to continue fighting injustice, even if at the expense of good relations.

So now turning around and looking back at different situations with this perspective, would it be smart or rational to appease Zionist clubs on campus for the sake of looking good? If we fear our Lord alone and no one else, I would think it to be irrational and not very smart. Yes we need to educate our campus and I will be the first to agree that we need to turn the education nob up a notch but by no means does that mean we should not do things for fear of angering Israeli advocacy clubs on campus. And those who are out there to “get us” will most likely remain out there to “get us” and will continue to find ways to twist and misrepresent what we stand for. We must again ask ourselves, are we doing things to look good in front of everyone or are we doing everything for the sake of our Lord?

In the context of the whole “OC Hillel Investigation” it is completely understandable that some Muslims may be nervous, but we need to make sure not to let opposing groups on campus use scare tactics to silence us. It isn’t wrong to be afraid but its wrong for us to let that fear stop us from doing what is right…

~And Our Lord Knows Best~

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That's right .. I's back. Been to England for a few and have seen the muslem influence in that nation. Granted this is from the US, but misinformation is the same no matter where in the world it happens. This article is the silliest misinformation I have read in some time. Without further a do ...

LOL !!! LMFSAO !!! Are you kidding. Muslems kill each other wholesale and opress each other routinely !! It is actually the law of Islam (Sharia) that those not accepting Islam but living in Muslem controlled lands MUST BE OPPRESSED !! These people are called "Dhimmis" and are to be humiliated and made to pay extortion to the Muslems just for the right to live there. So if you believe that Islam stands for helping those oppressed, you are just about the most gulible person I know. Islam IS oppression !!

LOL. I like this guy. Everyone else is standing for injustice, but pnly we Muslems are champions of the rightous cause. Sounds about right for the Muslem mentality. We only blow things up and kill each other and others for the glory of the lord.

You could actually do more than just speak out for the suffering of the Palestinian people. You could raise funds to help, like the Jews of the world do. But that's not the agenda. The agenda is to make Israel look bad for the Palestinians living in squalor ... just like the rest of the Arabs in the area !! It's not Istrael's fault that the Palestinians don't want peace and continually elect corupt terrorists to represent them. Here's a hint ... GROW UP !!

I could go on and on, but I will finish with what I think is the funniest part of this article ...
Forgotten voice ?!! It's all we hear about. Israel bad, Palestinians innocent victims. There are 1.2 or so BILLION Muslems and they are the forgotten voice ?! LOL. Who's the propaganda idiot that thaught up of this URL ?

Worst part of all this Punx is that for all your rambling about how great Muslems are and how horrible Jews/Israel is, Muslems don't like you. Neither do I frankly, but mine dislike is based primarilly on your irrationality, not by virtue of my culture or religion. Have a wonderful day you poor misguided product of the public education system of the States.

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Once again Janglo wade's in and thinks he is superior to everyone else. The fundamental difference between him and you is that you are an outspoken Jew and he's a Muslim who believes in Allah.

NewBeg wades in with a pointless post. I'm an outspoken Jew and this shmo believes in Allah. What's your point ?! When you show me how I think I'm superior, I will stop thinking of you as a retarded monkey. Till then ... keep flinging that poo

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So you have in the past and will in the future make statements condemning Muslim countries Killing and Oppression of the Kurds (and advocate a State for them cut out of Syria, Iraq, Iran and Turkey),
The Arabo-Muslim NIF's Sudanese GenocideS of First 2,000,000 Christians and animists, and then a few hundred thousand of the Fur people....

And of course you condemn Egypts treatment of the Copts...

And I'm sure you made stements on the Muslim killing killings of tens of thousands of Christians in East Timor and the rest of Indonesia....

And the 3500-a-month Iraqi Muslims being killed by Assorted other Muslims Arabs.
In fact, as many being killed EVERY month as Palestinians have been in 6 years of the Intifada.

Yep- you Human-Rightsers at the Muslim Student Union are just unstoppable do-gooders you are.

Keep us up on your other good work beside palestine. LOFL.

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My Serbian people had been oppressed for 500 years by Muslim rulers.

Welcome to the growing club Bokile . Had an interesting conversation w/ a Christian (Baptist) Arab cab driver the other day. He is 3 months from receiving his PHD in Theology. Can't stand Islam although he lives in East Jerusalem. Mainly because of the oppression of other faiths. He would never dare state this in his neighborhood for fear of death.

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Is Israel looking for peace? I know Israel would like peace but only on its terms, which is not what is on offer and never will be. Israel just can't seem to see that. Israel have never sought a compromise only the peace of a conqueror. Which always ends badly. Israel has set up an endless war and then bleats about it. If the Palestinians don't have security then Israel will not have security.

It's fascinating to me that you seem to feel that there is a peace being offered by the Palestinians. That's laughable !! Unlike you, at least Hamas is open and honest about it's agenda, and it's not just their agenda. You absolutely, despite all proof, refuse to admit that Islam will never allow Israel to exist. So Israel makes peace with more liberal Muslem countries, or ones which value their quality of life and realiy over holy war declared in a book written by a nomdic warlord almost a millenia and a half ago. We do know that what we are offering will not be accepted, but neither would anything else we propose. And if you think giving back Jerusalem, the Golan and allowing all refugees (who knows how many there really are and who was really a refugee) back will bring peace, I'd like to know what you're smoking and where I can get some. The issue, the real underlying issue, is ISLAM !! It's never going away by appeasement !! I thaught you where from England. You have so many issues with Muslems. How can you possibly point at us and say we should appease Islem. Look how well it's working for you.

We have given back land when the peace was actually meant. Sadat was genuine as was Jordan's King Hussein. We have peace with both nations (I know, Egypt hates us ... I blame that on Islam). The Palestinians have never never never wanted peace. They have never elected anyone promissing peace, only death to israel and return of refugees. So spare me the BS about compromise, Israel has done that plenty. Maybe you haven't noticed Israel's little social experiment with Gaza. Return all the land in question and see if good will is reciprocated. If you think it has, than we really have nothing more to speak about. It's now a Hammas stronghold and is used as a launching base against Israel. It's in fact a decleration of war as Hamas launches many of the rockets and cross border attacks, and it's the elected representative of the Palestinian people. And of cours Hamas is an orthodox Muslem organization so it will not allow Israel to have an inch of land, and has said so publicly. You seem to ignore that my neighbor openly declars it's desire to eliminate me by any means.

Yes we bleat about the fact that regardless of our desires, Islam will not allow Israel to exist. You ignore this factor completely. It is the #1 factor in all this. Even if Israel did everything asked of us, it would not be enough. So you want me to apease people who openly call for my destruction ? Do I have "idiot" tattooed on my forehead ?
As for "Palesinian security", who o you thing a Palestinian has more of a chance of getting killed by, and Israeli, or a Palestinian ? They are killing civilians left and right, not to mention using civilians as sheilds when shooting rockets. So seriously, spare me the "Israel has braught this on itself" crap. When have the Muslem nations bent an inch to meet Israel with regards to peace ? Never !!

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1948. The Israeli national archives were busting at the seams with Arab peace offers.

Ben-Gurion rejected them.

One was from Syria proposing to take 300,000 refugees and recognition of Israel.