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Why aren't there any sections devoted to the Muslem "conspiracy" theories ?!! For example, I believe that the ultimate goal of Islam is the conquest of the world. I can certainly back this up with more accurate and factual proof than 99% of the crap that Jews are being accused of on this forum.
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Why aren't there any sections devoted to the Muslem "conspiracy" theories ?!! For example, I believe that the ultimate goal of Islam is the conquest of the world. I can certainly back this up with more accurate and factual proof than 99% of the crap that Jews are being accused of on this forum.
Yes a good conspiracy theory should start from an untenable stand point based on a woolly theory without a shred of evidence knit around with paranoia.
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Well 009 you should know ! God, he's so funny !!!!
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Why not have a Muslem conspiracy theory forum right here by the Zionist one ?!!
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I made this response 3 months ago to another poster:

http://www.politicalforum.com/viewto...hlight=#331614

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Ashely tries, Dishonestly, of course, to rebut or diminish your [Moishe3rd's] statement that that Islamo-Fascists want to take-over the world and He does this by calling it "Covert" and "conspiracy", when in fact as you say, it's a Stated Goal.

Yet through all Ashley's Jew-Dirt-digging internet life he hasn't come across this well known and stated goal of Islamo-Fascists... if not Mainstream Islam itself.

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Wikipedia (and this isn't even Islamo.....'Fascist')

Divisions of the world in Islam

In Islamic theology and legal interpretations, the Ultimate aim of Islam is to bring the whole World under the Dominion of Islam.

Accordingly each part of the world is given a descriptive status to delineate its current state in regards to the aims of Islam and to define the permissible conduct of Muslims in those regions.

Dar al-Islam

Dar al-Islam (Arabic: دار الإسلام literally house of submission) is a term used to refer to those lands under Muslim government(s).
In the conservative tradition of Islam the world is divided into two components: dar al-Islam, the house of submission and dar al-Harb, the house of war.

Dar al-Islam and its associated terms are not found in the two most basic works of Islam, the Qur'an and the Hadith. Some modern Muslim scholars maintain that the labeling of a country or place as dar al-Islam or dar al-harb revolves around the question of religious security. This means that if a Muslim practices Islam freely in his place of abode, then he will be considered as living in a dar al-Islam, even if he happens to live in a secular or non-Islamic country. Traditional definitions tend to focus on which religion holds ultimate authority.

Recently, prominent Western Muslim intellectuals, such as Tariq Ramadan, have challenged the dar al-Islam/dar al-Harb worldview, suggesting additional 'houses' (or 'abodes') to describe differing situations.

Dar al-Harb

Dar al-Harb (Arabic: دار الحرب "house of war") is a term used to refer to those areas outside Muslim rule.
The term traditionally refers to those lands administered by non-Muslim governments. The exact definitions of these territories can vary widely according to the viewer's concept of who is and is not a Muslim, and which governments are or are not Muslim in practice. The inhabitants of the Dar al-Harb are called harbis.

Dar al-Harb and its associated terms are not found in the two most basic works of Islam, the Qur'an and the Hadith.

In Reliance of the Traveller, point w43.2, a hadith is referred to containing the exact word Dar al-Harb. Scholars have, nevertheless, disagreed on its reliability as is commented in Reliance of the Traveller.


Dar al-Hudna
Dar al Hudna (Arabic: "house of calm"):The land of non-believers currently under truce which is in Respite between Wars. Truce is bought by tribute by harbis. If the harbis Refuse to pay Tribute in exchange for the Truce, hostilities are resumed. Furthermore, only treaties that conform to Islamic prescriptions are valid; if these conditions are not fulfilled the treaty is worthless.

Dar al-'Ahd
Dar al-'Ahd (Arabic: دار العهد "house of truce" or Dar al-Sulh "house of treaty") was invented to describe the Ottoman Empire's relationship with its Christian tributary states. The invention Dar al-Ahd was necessary, as the worldview prevalent at the time did not allow for a protracted peace with non-Muslim states, even those under Muslim domination.

Today, the term refers to those non-Muslim governments which have armistice or peace agreements with Muslim governments. The actual status of the non-Muslim country in question may vary from acknowledged equality to tributary states.

Dar al-Kufr

Dar al-Kufr (Arabic: دار الكفر, "house of infidels"
or "domain of disbelief") is a term used by Muhammad to refer to the Quraish-dominated society of Mecca between his flight to Medina (the Hijra) and his triumphant return.

For much of Islamic history, the preferred term used to describe non-Islamic societies has been dar al-Harb, emphasizing various Islamic countries' aspirations to Conquer such territories and render them part of dar al-Islam.

A traditional Arabic saying attributed to Muhammad goes: "Unbelief is one community", or in other words, "infidels are of one nation", expressing the view that distinctions between different types of non-Muslims are insignificant in relation to the overriding distinction between Muslim and non-Muslim...."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dar_al-Islam


MY GOD that wasn't from the 'Protocols'.. that WAS right from Mohamed, the Koran, and real Islam! Good thing it wasn't the OT!

The above was from just typing 'Dar al-harb' (226,0000 hits) into google.
One could use Scores of other strategies/words and get Tens of MILLIONS of Results.
Things like

'Islam take over the world' 33,800,000 hits -- and I see Plenty of info and I don't see a conspiracy site among them.
You could spend a Year or more on this single search and it's results alone!

'Khilafah' -- 197,000 hits

Gee Ashley that was real Difficult. You couldn't find One huh ... Just did take the same amount of time for 3 ridiculous links to mock the truth.

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Abu, this info is on the money. It's not a crazy form of Islam. It's orthodox Islam. Anyone Muslem claiming that Islam is an overall peaceful religion is extremely liberal and in complete denial.

The reason I would like to see the Muslem world conquest and general human rights violations issues on this part of the site is to have it by the Zionist part. If Zionism can be slandered than we should be able to discuss actual truths about Islam.
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Why not have a Muslim conspiracy theory forum right here by the Zionist one ?!!
I was being serious. It does make a good "Conspiracy theory."

Like all "conspiracy theories" it should have the P..s taken out of it.

It does belong next to "JFK" the "Twin towers was an inside job" and "Zionism runs the world".
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Heres a better idea.. Hows bout the Choosen People stop sucking on Miss USA's teat.

Israel is a big boy now. heck, the 6million Choosen ones now have the biggest military and the lone nuclear armed nation in the middle east. Long past time they stop begging for freemeals.
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Heres a better idea.. Hows bout the Choosen People stop sucking on Miss USA's teat.

Israel is a big boy now. heck, the 6million Choosen ones now have the biggest military and the lone nuclear armed nation in the middle east. Long past time they stop begging for freemeals.
Dear TedRuxpinator,

This was an interesting jump from the main subject, but I will answer you anyway. First though, why isn't there a portion here dedicated to Islam's desire for world conquest ?!! But I digress ...

It is true that Israel gets a significant stipen from the US of A. We sincerely appreciate it. However, you make it sound as if we are the only country in this region, not to mention the World, that gets these funds. How about Egypt getting 2 Bill a year ? How about the de facto 100+ bill to Iraq ? Or the direct contributions to the Palestinian Authority ? Or the trillions you have handed into the caufers of the petrolium countries, many of whom would like to see nothing more than myself dead, while doing nothing about switching over to an alternate fuel source. How about mentioning that over 90% of this aid is spent on defense, much of which is contracts with US firms ? Or that without this funding Israel would not be able to afford smart bombs etc and would simply howitzer Southern Lebanon killing exponentially more people and enciting Muslem rage even further, almost guaranteeing an eventual all out war. Hope you like drilling for oil in radiation suits.
I will say this though, Israel's funding by the US has been going down yearly. I hope that we will someday not need the help in protecting our lives from the same people apparently intent on killing those in the US (and Europe) as well. So if you know any reason that Israel should be singled out with regards to aid, besides being urged to do so by Arabs, Muslems, and those generally opposed to Israel's existence, please let me know.
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In other words your country will keep taking handouts... because it can. Not because it needs it.


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Due to the fact that Israel begs for aid and willing accepts my money, that gives me the right to say whatever the hell I want to about the Choosen People. Beggars can't be choosers
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