Thread: The Holocaust

ALLIED MILITARY POLICE HEADQUARTERS...VIENNA... JAN 10th , 1948.

Memo Nr: 31/48

"The Allied Committee of Inquiry has to date proven that no poison gas was ever used to kill prisoners in the following concentration camps......

Bergen-Belsen, Buchenwald, Dachau,Flossenburg, Gross-Rosen, Mauthausen, and satellite camps..Natzweller,Neuengamme, Niederhagen(Wewelsberg), Ravensbruck, Sachsenhausen, Stutthoff, Theresienstadt, In all cases where gassings were alleged, it COULD BE PROVEN THAT TORTURE WAS USED TO EXTRACT CONFESSIONS, AND WITNESSES HAVE LIED. Any former inmate who,during their debriefing continues to allege that Poison gas was used to murder people(in particular Jews) are to be reported to this office, and if they insist on lying further, they are to be charged with perjury."

Signed Major Miller
Commanding Officer..Allied Military Police Vienna

witnessed by: Lieutenant Lachout MP

So the people nazis took with trains and never came back leaving their property , stores , houses etc behind , where are they ?

MEDICAL DOCTORS WHO ENTERED CAMPS AFFIRM THAT THERE WAS NOT DELIBERATE MURDER OF ANYONE,DEATH WAS FROM DISEASE AND STARVATION......


When American and British forces overran western and central Germany in the spring of 1945, they were followed by troops charged with discovering and securing any evidence of German war crimes.

Among them was Dr. Charles Larson, one of America's leading forensic pathologists, who was assigned to the US Army's Judge Advocate General's Department. As part of a US War Crimes Investigation Team, Dr. Larson performed autopsies at Dachau and some twenty other German camps, examining on some days more than 100 corpses. After his grim work at Dachau, he was questioned for three days by US Army prosecutors. [1]

Dr. Larson's findings? In an 1980 newspaper interview he said: "What we've heard is that six million Jews were exterminated. Part of that is a hoax." [2] And what part was the hoax? Dr. Larson, who told his biographer that to his knowledge he "was the only forensic pathologist on duty in the entire European Theater" of Allied military operations, [3] confirmed that "never was a case of poison gas uncovered." [4]
Typhus, Not Poison Gas

If not by gassing, how did the unfortunate victims at Dachau, Buchenwald and Bergen-Belsen perish? Were they tortured to death or deliberately starved? The answers to these questions are known as well.

As Dr. Larson and other Allied medical men discovered, the chief cause of death at Dachau, Belsen and the other camps was DISEASE, above all TYPHUS, an old and terrible scourge of mankind that until recently flourished in places where populations were crowded together in circumstances where public health measures were unknown or had broken down. Such was the case in the overcrowded internment camps in Germany at war's end, where, despite such measures as systematic delousing, quarantine of the sick and cremation of the dead, the virtual collapse of Germany's food, transport, and public health systems led to catastrophe.

Perhaps the most authoritative statement of the facts as to typhus and mortality in the camps has been made by Dr. John E. Gordon, M.D., Ph.D., a professor of preventive medicine and epidemiology at the Harvard University School of Public Health, who was with US forces in Germany in 1945. Dr. Gordon reported in 1948 that "The outbreaks in concentration camps and prisons made up the great bulk of typhus infection encountered in Germany." Dr. Gordon summarized the causes for the outbreaks as follows: [5]

Germany in the spring months of April and May [1945] was an astounding sight, a mixture of humanity traveling this way and that, homeless, often hungry and carrying typhus with them ...



Dr. Gordon's findings are corroborated by Dr. Russell Barton, today a psychiatrist of international repute, who entered Bergen-Belsen with British forces as a young medical student in 1945. Barton, who volunteered to care for the diseased survivors, testified under sworn oath in a Toronto courtroom in 1985 that "Thousands of prisoners who died at the Bergen-Belsen concentration camp during World War II weren't deliberately starved to death but died from a rash of diseases." [6]

Dr. Barton further testified that on entering the camp he had credited stories of deliberate starvation but decided such stories were untrue after inspecting the well equipped kitchens and the meticulously maintained ledgers, dating back to 1942, of food cooked and dispensed each day.

Despite noisily publicized claims and widespread popular notions to the contrary, no researcher has been able to document a German policy of extermination through starvation in the German camps.

That's because American forces overran CONCENTRATION CAMPS.

The Soviets overran the EXTERMINATION CAMPS.

Nuremberg Show Trials

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From page 2 (Section 2, a & b) and page 3 of Erhard Milch’s spoken statement, sworn and notarized on 9 April 1947.

Generalfeldmarschall Erhard Milch

In this connection I would also like to convey the following facts: On 17 September 1945, Major Emery, an interrogator from England, whom I already knew as he was known in England, or “Englishman”, as he was known in Germany, sought me in my quarters in the Kaufbeuren Interrogation Compound. I suppose that his real name is different. He was, as he had once old me, a New York banker. He commanded the American interrogation group to which a Capt. Tracy (also a cover name, most likely) also belonged. The American interrogation group was located in the English interrogation compound of Camp 7. Mr. Emery asked me about my ancestry, meaning that if I were of jewish ancestry, be would be able to remove me from all further prosecution. As I informed him that his supposition was not pertinent, he thought that be could not change things. The same gentleman visited me in Nuremberg on 5 November 1945, as I was just being questioned by an American interrogator. By chance I heard that it was a Major Mohagan (?). After a short conference, Emery Mohagan asked that we be left alone. Emery then said to me that if I were to make more favorable statements on behalf of Göring, Speer and the other accused in the International Military Tribunal, I must myself reckon with a war crimes trial against me. I replied that I took part in no war crimes and I could not see how I could be tried. Emery answered: “That is a small matter. If we wish, we could try every German, regardless if he committed crimes or not. Why do you want to stand up for Göring, Speer et al.? They would not do it for you, and I shall give you some good advice: It is in your own interests to testify against these people.” I replied that I could only tell the truth and that my person played no role in this matter, and that I did not fear a trial. Emery answered: “You must consider that you are still young, that you can again play a role, and that you must think of your family.”

Naturally I refused his offer, even if it were well-intended. With that he concluded that he could no longer be of any assistance. In this instant I knew that they would attempt to start a war crimes trial against me. I have also brought this matter to the attention of several comrades in Nuremberg as well as in Dachau, and also to the Swiss representative of The International Red Cross in Geneva, at that time.

(signed) Erhard Milch

The above signature of Erhard Milch, given at the Nuremberg Justice Building, before Attorney Dr. Friedrich Bergold, is hereby attested and witnessed by me.
Nuremberg, 9 April 1947
(signed) Dr. Friedrich Bergold
Defence Attorney for Military Tribunal II
Nuremberg

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The above is an all-important document proving clearly how brutal and unjust the Allies and their mostly jewish trial specialists were in laying trumped up charges against German leaders.

Translated from the German by E. Thomson

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It is no secret that The Fuhrer used jews in what is known as 'Hitler's jewish Army' -the majority held low level functionary jobs in the military. Milch was the one jew that held a rather high post.

Milch was one of the most devious jews. He helped Germany lose the war. One can only speculate as to why there was even a "jewish Army" in the Reich; however, it does prove that 'the holocaust' as described, ie, that The Fuhrer and his command were determined to holocaust every jew in Germany. It's a thing that Holocaustians try to play down.

If ever an error in judgment was made by The Reich, it was this inclusion of jews; especially in the military. The number of which range between 1200 jews - and, the jews inflated number of up to 10,000 jewish soldiers.

I do not fully understand why any jews at all were allowed in the military. They aren't known for their military prowess, even today in israel.

I googled Milch and found numerous accounts of his being a jew. The jewish sources [ie, all of google it seems] seem oddly proud on the one hand, in a sort of 'AHAH, see!!" pride; whilst alternately condemning Milch for having served for helping to kill them.

I do not fully understand why The Reich bothered with these jews at all, perhaps each jew selected for service was either cannon fodder for the Russian Front, or, like Milch, was percieved to have some degree of intelligence helpful to the war. Were I around then, and had I a say in the matter, these jews would have been placed in a work camp - where they could be put to better use. I would have trusted no jew to serve in the Reich, especially as soldiers.

Originally Posted by Leffe

I'm not really sure what you want to discuss, but I will say that there is a far larger holocaust going on right now.

- the perpetrators?
Western financial institutions and companies

- the victims?
the worlds starving

- the numbers?
Unfortunately billions

The word you are looking for is "genocide". A holocaust can be genocide. The Holocaust definitely was genocide. But not all genocides are holocausts.

Originally Posted by Art_Allm

Wat has this to do with the 'Latest World News'?
In this Forum we should talk about Genocides that HAPPEN TODAY!

BTW, they do not call this historic event 'Holocaust' any more.
They call it Shoa.

The term 'Holocaust' is an ancient Greek word that means 'whole-burnt-sacrifice' or 'burnt offering'.

The term 'Holocaust' which refers to Shoa was inroduced by the American film industry, but not accepted by the religious Jews.

ACtually the term Shoah is accepted by many Jews and is the Hebrew word for catastrophe

Here's some stuff I've looked at.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4X1ow...ctr=1364068873
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7wSlYYGt7gM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7dxsVSzL4HE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eMYAjyW1OFU

I've got some other stuff I'll post later.

It seems that the position of holocaust deniers is being misrepresented in the press. They don't exactly deny that it happened. They say it was exaggerated and distorted.

This is one of the few sites that has a holocaust section in its forum.
http://waronyou.com/forums/index.php...247&board=65.0

Websites that delve too deeply into the holocaust issue can be blocked in some European countries. Some threads I've started on it on other forums have been closed. I was banned from the infowars forum for starting a thread in which I stated that I wasn't declaring a position and that I just wanted to discuss the evidence. In the banning notice they called me a fascist.