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Old 11-17-2007, 02:17 PM
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Default Why don't we hear as much antisemitism as we used to?

http://christianactionforisrael.org/...o/ml_king.html

". . . You declare, my friend, that you do not hate the Jews, you are merely 'anti-Zionist.' And I say, let the truth ring forth from the high mountain tops, let it echo through the valleys of God's green earth: When people criticize Zionism, they mean Jews--this is God's own truth."
-- Dr. Martin Luther King.

Zionism: a worldwide Jewish movement that resulted in the establishment and development of the state of Israel.

The UN is always either voting against Israel, or abstaining. Now. Assuming Israel gives up and lets the Muslims move in, the Jews would need somewhere to go, right? So if a country usually known to be a friend to Israel, which abstains in the UN, doesn't even press a button, why would they go out of their way, and do a HUGE favor to let the Jews into their country? (The countries that vote against Israel would obviously not want to help them all of a sudden.)
MY QUESTION: If Israel would be given up, where would the Jews go? (Which is the main view of the Anti-Zionists)

btw, even the US didn't take in the Jews during the holocaust; hence the death of the 6 million. This question is not directed toward the holocaust denying "Anti-Zionists."

Therefore, many people say that the Anti-Zionists are the modern Anti-Semites.
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"The antisemite rejoices at any opportunity to vent his malice. The times have made it unpopular, in the West, to proclaim openly a hatred of the Jews. This being the case, the antisemite must constantly seek new forms and forums for his poison. How he must revel in the new masquerade! He does not hate the Jews, he is just 'anti-Zionist'!"
-- Martin Luther King
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I couldn't have said it better even if I tried.
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Old 11-20-2007, 04:57 PM
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Default antisemitism and the US hate-crimes report

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'anti-Zionist.' And I say, let the truth ring forth from the high mountain tops, let it echo through the valleys of God's green earth: When people criticize Zionism, they mean Jews--this is God's own truth."
-- Dr. Martin Luther King.

Zionism: a worldwide Jewish movement that resulted in the establishment and development of the state of Israel.

The UN is always either voting against Israel, or abstaining. Now. Assuming Israel gives up and lets the Muslims move in, the Jews would need somewhere to go, right? So if a country usually known to be a friend to Israel, which abstains in the UN, doesn't even press a button, why would they go out of their way, and do a HUGE favor to let the Jews into their country? (The countries that vote against Israel would obviously not want to help them all of a sudden.)
MY QUESTION: If Israel would be given up, where would the Jews go? (Which is the main view of the Anti-Zionists)

btw, even the US didn't take in the Jews during the holocaust; hence the death of the 6 million. This question is not directed toward the holocaust denying "Anti-Zionists."

Therefore, many people say that the Anti-Zionists are the modern Anti-Semites.
good point, well made. In reference to antisemitism, here's this from yesterday's USA Today:

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"Hate crimes in the United States increased 8% in 2006, but some groups, including gays, Muslims and people with mental disabilities, experienced larger spikes in attacks, the FBI says."

•A 19% increase in crimes motivated by religious bias. Attacks on Muslims increased 22% to 156 last year. Attacks on Catholics increased by almost a third to 76. Almost seven in 10 were crimes against Jews, which were up 14% to 967.

http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/...e_N.htm?csp=34
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When Is 22% Of 156 Greater Than 14% Of 967? Answer When Hate Crimes Against Muslims Is Compared With Hate Crimes Against Jews

if muslim hate crime increased 22% to 156 then the increase must be (127.87 + 29 = 156) 29 incidents incidents of hate crimes against muslims...

if jewish hate crimes increased 14% to 967 the the increase must be (848.25 + 118.75 = 967) 118.75 incidents of hate crimes against jews. ..

thus while the per cent seems large the actual spike is small when comparable populations, Jews/Muslims are compared.

explanation: if an incident happens 1 in 1 million in one year but increases 2 in 1 million in the next year, there has been a doubling of the incidents. twice as much. but it is still only 2 events in 1 million. now compare that to this; an event happens 50 in 1 million in one year but 55 in 1 million in the next year. that is a 10 per cent increase. the per cents seems small but the number is large when compared to the 1 to 2 increase.
The implication of the article and the headliner is that gays, Muslims, and the mentally handicapped suffered the most from hate crimes. Yet more Jews, and certainly more Jews as a percentage of the population, experienced hate crimes. While the article does point out that seven of ten hate-crime victims are Jewish, it does the usual PC thing to homogenise the result and distort the facts. It is particularly interesting to consider that much of the rise in antisemitism is due to the broadcasting of it by Islam, lol. This was shown to be true in Britain, and is surely true the world over.
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". . . You declare, my friend, that you do not hate the Jews, you are merely 'anti-Zionist.' And I say, let the truth ring forth from the high mountain tops, let it echo through the valleys of God's green earth: When people criticize Zionism, they mean Jews--this is God's own truth."
-- Dr. Martin Luther King.

Zionism: a worldwide Jewish movement that resulted in the establishment and development of the state of Israel.

The UN is always either voting against Israel, or abstaining. Now. Assuming Israel gives up and lets the Muslims move in, the Jews would need somewhere to go, right? So if a country usually known to be a friend to Israel, which abstains in the UN, doesn't even press a button, why would they go out of their way, and do a HUGE favor to let the Jews into their country? (The countries that vote against Israel would obviously not want to help them all of a sudden.)
MY QUESTION: If Israel would be given up, where would the Jews go? (Which is the main view of the Anti-Zionists)

btw, even the US didn't take in the Jews during the holocaust; hence the death of the 6 million. This question is not directed toward the holocaust denying "Anti-Zionists."

Therefore, many people say that the Anti-Zionists are the modern Anti-Semites.
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Ginna,
you are a perfect example of "Anti-semite." You don't even require the "cover" of anti-zionism...

In fact, anti-semitism is BORING, very very BORING
because one always knows what the antisemite thinks well in advance, should one equate hatred with "thinking." Anti-semitism is like an illness, and the symptoms (the thinking and the comments) are the same in most every one. It is like a mindless liturgy.

Funny you should think that others might be boring. Physician, heal thyself.
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". . . You declare, my friend, that you do not hate the Jews, you are merely 'anti-Zionist.' And I say, let the truth ring forth from the high mountain tops, let it echo through the valleys of God's green earth: When people criticize Zionism, they mean Jews--this is God's own truth."
-- Dr. Martin Luther King.

Zionism: a worldwide Jewish movement that resulted in the establishment and development of the state of Israel.

The UN is always either voting against Israel, or abstaining. Now. Assuming Israel gives up and lets the Muslims move in, the Jews would need somewhere to go, right? So if a country usually known to be a friend to Israel, which abstains in the UN, doesn't even press a button, why would they go out of their way, and do a HUGE favor to let the Jews into their country? (The countries that vote against Israel would obviously not want to help them all of a sudden.)
MY QUESTION: If Israel would be given up, where would the Jews go? (Which is the main view of the Anti-Zionists)

btw, even the US didn't take in the Jews during the holocaust; hence the death of the 6 million. This question is not directed toward the holocaust denying "Anti-Zionists."

Therefore, many people say that the Anti-Zionists are the modern Anti-Semites.
What exactly does Anti-Semitic mean? The word is a classic misnomer used as a hollow defense against the mountains of evidence concerning "the things these people do". The word is used as (they think) as sort of a carte' Blanche type trump card to give them a "free pass" against any and all responsible for "the things that they do".

Of course they are above the law, and the laws of the land and the society does not apply to them. The "label" anti-Semitic is what's placed on a obsolete "political maneuver", and is a meaningless word. To make any sense of the word the "H" which was intentionally removed would have to be replaced.

Now a word such as Anti-Shemitism would have a coherent definition and meaning. One could then recognize "Shem" as the origin of the words meaning. At this point one could acknowledge the sons of Shem as being Abraham, Isaac, Ismael, and Jacob along with "Esau".


The interesting thing here is to witness how the word got "monopolized" (one of their well known traits).............. Of all the sons of Shem how is it that Esau the least favored of all the sons invents a word hoping no one will recognize their vast assortment of extremely serious crimes.

The sons of Abraham were blessed, Esau was the only one not blessed. He lost his birthright and blessing and could never accept this fact. So he pretends to be Jacob/Israel who was promised World dominion at the return of their King, and uses this fake war on terror scheme to vilify and rob Ismael who was blessed with large oil deposits.

If the truth be told their work in attempting to take over the United States is colossal in comparison to the destabilization and take-over Iraq and Iran. The difference being efforts to destabilize and take-over the United States Government is mostly covert (excluding 9-11), And the (10 overt rate increases Alan Greenspan implemented) in "one year" before he stepped down from the so-called Federal Reserve.

Be not deceived these people are working harder to conquer America more than any of the huge numbers of enemies that understand "the evils things these people do".
The evidence speaks for itself, and if you want to talk about hatred Why don't you start with the God of Israel who states in Holy Scripture "He hates Esau".......................P.S.............To elaborate the issue here's more: Anybody that really understand this notion of Anti- Semitism realizes it's just a label place on a political maneuver designed to cover the wide assortment of extremely serious crimes by this group of people... especially treason. This word does not define, or side track ones thinking when understanding "the purpose of the word".....realizing the purpose of the word is all that matters...for "the word itself has no meaning".

Speaking of smells as in "odors" the putrid stench of all the lies, murder, manipulation and thievery of this people is well known worldwide, it's just seems Americans are trailing behind other nations and peoples in arriving at the understanding of how these people destabilize and undermine peoples and nations, economically, morally, educationally, physically and psychologically. This is done here primarily by the American media which they control at with point.

All the sob stories from the media about what they claimed happened to them in world war two, however nothing is said about how they instigated and manipulated this war and the first world war into existence. Nothing is said about the communism they brought into Russia. Nothing is said about how they murdered the last Zcar and destroyed their form of government which was an monarchy. Nothing said about "Stalin being a Jew" and the murder of 65 Million people mainly by starvation in the Ukraine. Most of these people were farmers, and the appalling facts concerning how so many farmers staved to death is something that must never be forgotten despite the American media.

The news media has now become the bankers propaganda machine and serious journalism has been replaced with sensationalized entertainment laced with misplaced comedy. Few definitive facts especially concerning political matters ever appear in the news, just brainwash and inept opinion making.

Also the using of the media against the young minds of children has not been overlooked by these evil people. Morning television has people like Jerry Springer*, and Maury Polvich* polluting and destroying young minds by broadcasting the habits of the wayward elements of society for all to see (This is the nature of THIS people, and just some of the great evil they do).

Take time to watch some of the cartoons that are now broadcast in the media, and the messages that come across. Witness for yourself the kind of themes put forth by the cartoons characters much different than those of the past. Notice how in the media women are used as masculine rather than feminine, and placed in authority over men. All these things are done for an reason and is the ineffective preparation to weaken the morale of the American people in hopes of achieving an take-over with less resistance. They carried out operations similar in Russia with the Bolshevik revolution.

They play peoples and nations against each others all along having as their agenda the take-over of both sides of the instigated conflicts they ferment. One can continue on to mention how 911 was used to bring about two wars which only these bankers benefit from. These wars are more about the bankruptcy and take-over of the United States than oil. A war with Iran is really about the take-over of the United States though bankruptcy. The political moves made since 9-11 in terms of so-called homeland security is nothing more than the implementation of communist methods to replace ones Freedoms and Rights under the Constitution. 9-11 and the take-over of the N.S.A.by these people is the writing on the wall.

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Why don't you start with the God of Israel who states in Holy Scripture "He hates Esau".
It is true that it is said in Romans 9:13: "It is written that Jacob I loved, but Esau I hated"

But how do you reconcile that with the following quotes also from the Bible?

Deut 10:17 "The great God, mighty and awesome, who shows no partiality …'


2 Chron. 19:7 "For with the LORD our God there is no injustice or partiality …"

Job 34:19 [God] "who shows no partiality …"

Acts 10:34 "I now realize how true it is that God does not show favoritism"

Romans 2:11 "For God does not show favoritism."

Galatians 2:6 "As for those who seemed to be important--whatever they were makes no difference to me; God does not judge by external appearance."

Ephesians 6:9 "and there is no favoritism with him."

Colossians 3:25 "… and there is no favoritism."

1 Peter 1:17 "Since you call on a Father who judges each man's work impartially …"
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Morning television has people like Jerry Springer*, and Maury Polvich* polluting and destroying young minds ....
* means Jew.
I would just ask a couple of questions here. One is, how do you define Jew? Is it a Temple-going individual, a follower of the Jewish religion, a person whose mother is Jewish, a person whose last name is "Jewish", a person with Jewish genetics, a person who identifies himself as a Jew, someone who has a Jew somewhere in his genetic background? What do you mean when you say "a Jew"?

Finally, I would ask why young minds are not at school in the morning instead of watching Jerry Springer on television? Are not the people who watch or act in a bad way or who allow their children to watch or act in a bad way -- responsible for their own actions or those of their children? You would like us to believe that Jews are responsible for the activities of others. All anyone needs to do is not watch and if enough people did so, any "entertainer" would be out of business in short order. So put the responsibility where it belongs. No adult is responsible for the behavior of another. Presumably we have free will, and if we don't -- then none of us is responsible for our actions anyway -- Jews included.
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The word favoritism is not found in any of the scriptures you quoted. In Holy Scripture it's the wicked that are always condemned. One knows the wicked by their works.... and the works of Esau/Jews are extremely wicked and underhanded. With all the usury, wars, lies and murder how on earth do you excuse all this evil?
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Morning television has people like Jerry Springer*, and Maury Polvich* polluting and destroying young minds ....
* means Jew.
I would just ask a couple of questions here. One is, how do you define Jew? Is it a Temple-going individual, a follower of the Jewish religion, a person whose mother is Jewish, a person whose last name is "Jewish", a person with Jewish genetics, a person who identifies himself as a Jew, someone who has a Jew somewhere in his genetic background? What do you mean when you say "a Jew"?

Finally, I would ask why young minds are not at school in the morning instead of watching Jerry Springer on television? Are not the people who watch or act in a bad way or who allow their children to watch or act in a bad way -- responsible for their own actions or those of their children? You would like us to believe that Jews are responsible for the activities of others. All anyone needs to do is not watch and if enough people did so, any "entertainer" would be out of business in short order. So put the responsibility where it belongs. No adult is responsible for the behavior of another. Presumably we have free will, and if we don't -- then none of us is responsible for our actions anyway -- Jews included.
You did not answer any of the questions I put to you. I take it you are conceding that you cannot?
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