Gays have the same rights as straight people

a legal kinship already exists.

no state annuls a marriage for a failure to consumate.

 

If you have to ask that question, seriously, in a thread about marriage, you have deeper issues to deal with than the topic at hand. I'm sure with enough prayer, meditation, introspective analysis, whatever, you'll come to see the answer for yourself.

Good luck, Uni.

 

Your mistake is in assuming that those we could exclude, must be excluded. Post 197 nicely spells out why that isnt the case.

 

Are bi-sexuals allowed to marry both sexes? Over a century time sexual orientation has become a political issue, adds up to all the other political issues this system has created. Politics is a war, a war against the free mind of the people, and after a century over half the worlds population isn't free, all minds are locked to the system and loaded to give there power (vote) to the system (as soon as you join this war you loose, and more and more people world wide have joined this war, this world is voting in large amounts, thus is slowly but surely destroying itself, from voting to one world empire, empire leads to war, always did)
The ideology of this system has lots of ethnical/racial/cultural or subjects that has to do with nature, race, sex, dna, reproduction, crowd control, and so on. You can see what this system is doing (trying to get control over the masses world wide)
Once the world understand what is going on the next problem appears, that we all have become the same again. Thats why some politicians are waving aside gay issues or the zillion other politial issues, to cause a political split (because from that they can do the same as happened in Germany, tilting to one side, and becoming one mass again)
It's always about forming larger and larger groups of voters (political splits and high turnouts and/or high numbers of votes on single parties is what is going on today in many countries, this is an alarm for people/voters)
This is how a sexual political issues is just one small part of the ideology that is leading masses of people to give away their power to the people who all have masterminded this, because only by ideology a small group of people (rulers) can get control over a very large group of people, not ideology means no busy with gathering power, with empire building. Ideology is dangerous, freedom (no ideology) not, not busy with a utopia)

 

I said "Its difficult to determine the ability to procreate with any certainty". Many, perfectly healthy and functioning heterosexual couples cannot procreate. Frequently medical science cannot even explain why it is that they cant procreate.

And if marriage were limited to only heterosexual couples who can and intend to procreate, 1000s of children would be born to unmarried heterosexual couples who did not intend to procreate, but ended up doing so anyway.

 

loving v virginia

what is the purpose of marriage? and don't respond with "procreation", because that has already been refuted. the ability or intention to procreate is not required for marriage.

repeatedly demonstrated that yes, in fact, same sex unions have something to do with marriage, since dozens of countries, including this one, have them.

 

children are irrelevant, since no requirement exists for the ability or intention to procreate.

 

Nonsense. Government encourages heterosexual couples to provide and care for their children together, so the government doesnt have to. And many of those who support gay marriage do so to eliminate the influence of the family. From the communist playbook

 

Weve been over this. Same sex marriage was prohibited in all states, from the beginning of their creation, until the last 10 years. Still so in 44 states. From 1872 california

 

No (*)(*)(*)(*) sherlock. What flies 1000 ft over your head is that while its frequently easy to detect the inability to procreate. it is very difficult to determine the ABILITY to procreate.

Actually, i was pointing out precisely the opposite.

Not much security for a woman to only have a hope that her partner will marry her if she were to get pregnant.

Thats where 100% of the single mothers come from. 100% of the children in need of care by their parents.

 

Nope. Marriage isnt limited to heterosexual couples in order to exclude homosexual couples, but is instead so limited to include all couples that conceivably can procreate.

A wide variety of factors. Including higher rates of poverty, juvenile delinquincy, HS dropouts, teen pregnancy and criminal conviction as an adult. [/quote]

All those who insist marrige be extended to homosexual couples because they also raise children. Probably more children being raised, as we speak by a single parent and grandparent together, than have ever been raised by gay couples.

 

provably false

 

these are state court decisions, which are losing in FEDERAL court.

 

of course we have, and you are just as wrong now, as you were the last time.

no such prohibition existed until the 1970's. your little quote quite clearly lacks the word ONLY.

 

That's like saying a rule against left handed baseball mitts is equally fair to all players.​

 

I cant imagine why you should.

 

Nope. Feel free at any time to stop the dash for refuge in every strawman you can think of and actually address the content of my posts.

 

And I only had to repeat it 3 times.

 

Never said any such thing. Step away from the strawmen if you can.