New Photo Surfaces Of George Zimmerman From Night Of Trayvon Shooting

Minor, huh?

 

One of the hands was skinned near the knuckle.

 

Oh, and now the fictional Dee Dee is 18. Were they scared she would get stat rape charges or something?

 

Don't let these folks try and fool you. The legal standard for self defense is having a reasonable fear of imminent death or bodily injury. The seriousness of GZ's injuries mean nothing in that regard but do support his account of events.

 

so no damage to the face or anywhere else other than where the bullet hit, and he has skin damage near the knuckle????


thats not good for the prosecution.

 

That is correct. There was no "fight". Trayvon outright attacked George. He punched George in the nose causing a disparity of force. As he took advantage of George being injured George had every right to defend himself.

 

Silly comment considering the price he paid.

 

maybe, maybe not. the real question to me in the matter is who touched who first.

because to be honest once a person lays any hand on you, whether it be an attack or simply grabbing your shoulder in an aggressive manner, that is grounds to put the person square on his ass.

so what i really want to know is, did treyvon punch him first or did george put his hands in any way on treyvon first??? that right there would sum up the whole event.

 

Given there is zero evidence of George laying a hand on Trayvon, Trayvon was legally the aggressor. If there is an "unkown" or if two possible scenarios are presented then it is resolved in favor of the defense. That is how it works.

 

LOLOLOLOL!!! So you can kill somebody for following you but you cant kill somebody for knocking you to the ground, slamming your head into the concrete saying you are going to die now?

 

You are correct. You can't attack someone for simply following you. Again, legal standard..

Sufficient Provocation has to be proven on the part of GZ to make him legally the first aggressor. Here is a guideline:

According to Wharton’s Criminal Law treatise, an encounter is provoked, thereby branding the defendant as an aggressor and stripping him of his right to self-defense, where the defendant:

Assaulted the deceased;

Unlawfully arrested the deceased;

Fires the first shot in a standoff;

Leaves a fight, only to return with a weapon


There is zero evidence to prove GZ did anything similiar to what is listed. This is a legal standard for establishing who was legally the first aggressor.

Here is the legal standard for insufficient provocation:

Insufficient Provocation are acts that do not legally justify an attack by someone:

On the other hand, Wharton’s Criminal Law states that a defendant does not become an aggressor where the defendant:

Demands an explanation of offensive words or conduct;

Discusses settlement of a claim;

Discusses a sensitive subject;

Hurls inappropriate language and insulting epithets;

Engages in an inconsiderate act;

Travels near a neighbor who has previously threatened him;

Arms himself to repel an anticipated attack, while going about normal business;

Provides an opportunity for conflict, but does not cause it; and

Arms himself with the intent to cause a conflict with the deceased, but does not perform an act manifesting his subjective intent to cause the conflict.

So merely following or even speaking to someone isn't legal justification for attacking someone. GZ claims TM confronted him and attacked him. If the State can't produce evidence to the contrary then TM was the first aggressor and GZ had every right to defend himself.

 

well i know, but at the same time there is no evidence that shows George didnt initiate the scuffle by simply putting his hand on Treyvon.

im just putting a couple of scenarios out there, im not on either side because to be honest this (*)(*)(*)(*) is all over the place at the moment. i want to see this go to trial so i can have a look at all evidence, because apparently its not all out.

 

Legally possibilities do not matter. only what can be proven by evidence and witnesses matters. If there is no evidence to contradict George's account, as the State admitted, then his account stands. Possibilities mean nothing without proof.

Also, even if George started it he is still afforded self defense by Florida law.

 

So when your community asks you to be in the neighborhood watch, you are stalking? Sorry, do you understand what being part of a community watch is? Never mind, I'm being trolled by a troll=)

 

I agree. He could have tripped and bounced his face off the curb or pavement, and done similar damage. Kids falling off bicycles and skateboards have looked much worse.

 

Neighborhood Watch rules forbid following a person, especially with a gun in your posession. We have DeeDee saying that the pervert scared Martin.

Totally legal for Martin to use deadly force against the only person there who was wrong being where he was.

Totally illegal for Z to accost Martin and behave in an intimidating manner and intergfere with him on his way home.

 

Or George could have been beaten by the Easter Bunny...Why not? There is just as much evidence for that as it is him hitting his head as he fell.

 

What is the current over/under in Vegas for months before Angela Nifong loses her Florida Bar License?

 

Wrong. The idiot still had the option to retreat after HE initiated contact in a threatening manner.

 

yeah i get that. but your last sentence is interesting. so if i started a fight in florida and the person i was fighting with got the upper hand and started beating the living (*)(*)(*)(*) out of me i am then in my right to shoot the person dead???

 

Bullcrap, read the legal standard I posted above. Martin had no legal right to attack George.

 

It's almost laughable in a sick sad sort of way to see all these right wing Michael Dunn lovers crowing over GZ's victory over a dead kid. Bunch of sick (*)(*)(*)(*)s if you ask me, and cowards to match. In my day you didnt pull a gun cause you got punched in the mouth.

 

Trayvon Martin was a violent punk who was killed as a result of his own actions. Get over it.

 

This is new evidence. Where did you get it?

 

Shes one inmate you never have to worry about finding something that can hold their weight to hang themselves.