Should Government Control or Outlaw Unions?

It's obvious.

It's the goonions.

Let's see a goonion come to a negotiating table where the owners of the company have the freedom to say, "since you don't want to work at for the terms we're offering, you no longer have our permission to be on our property. We're hiring people who want to work since we have a responsibility to our shareholders.".

If companies had that power, goonions would be less unreasonable.

So you share the libertarians' opinions of the goonionista.

 

So people should be shot at for striking?

The clear sequence of events in this movie is them legally picketing in front of the coal mine, not blocking the new miners entrance, or harrassing them, accept for maybe verbally telling these workers they were taking food out of these families mouth's.

No threats, physically or verbally of any kind.

The main gun thug fires on a peaceful picket away from the coal mine with an automatic weapon, and the whole picket is assaulted by paid gun thugs without provication.

Everyone knows who the main gun thug is. The police refuse to arrest him, and in response the striking miners block the entrance to the coal mine the next day!

You are full of crap!

To answer why don't they go find other jobs? This has already been easily explained in this thread. If we never fight back, it makes so easy for these business's to collude to do things like systematically remove pensions and Health Care insurance across all industries. That isn't choice, that is the illusion of choice!

 

(*)(*)(*)(*), everyone knows that tail risk is a possibility that an investment in a hedge portfolio will deviate in excess of three sigma from the current price, and that if that risk is likely that the distribution is a non-normal distribution.

Since when did knowledge of arcane trivia imply in-depth knowledge, and your claim that your knowledge of that trivia not only makes you the expert but means that the free-market can't work is just bull(*)(*)(*)(*). The Mayor is betting that you took longer to find the term on google than the Mayor took looking it up.

In the mean time, the Mayor's definition of tail-risk is much more relevant, given your support of same-sex marriage and your ignorance of the benefits of free market economics.

 

I get you now, anger troll me bro?

Your game is weak son!

I think you keep bringing up gays, because you want to go play with the little butt fairies like all your closeted Republicans who have been outed over the years!

Sound about right son?

 

If they're trespassing and violent, yes, why not?

People have a right to protect their property and their lives. People do not have a right to

Yeah, we all know that pro-goonion documentaries always cover the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth. Which is what Clinton swore to do that day he testified he didn't have sex with that Lewinski broad.

Hell, you people might, though it's extremely unlikely, be telling truth about events. Guess what? It doesn't matter. It doesn't render unto the goonions holy status from whence they forevermore derive special privileges....and it does not mean the company owed the goonion special consideration in the first place.

The company is obligated to represent the OWNERS of the company. That's it. They owe their workers wages established by the free market, and the free market in employment exists only when the employers have unrestricted access to all possible job seekers. If the goonion demands more wages than the company would have to pay with non-goonion labor, then there's no reason the company should continue to hire or pay inflated goonion wages.

 

Wouldn't know.

The Mayor speaks English.

 

Facts! You made the claim out of the blue that I had no clue about economics.

I asked you simply to explain what tail risk is, since this is what was being discussed.

I have seen this game played so many times. You just keep setting up strawmen, and have amnesia about what was said 3 posts ago, and I will continue pointing it out, and destroying any credibility you have here.




How was that? Did I break it?

 

Here it comes Mayor....You ready?

Every shill tactic you use, I am going to show everyone the tactic from the shills spy guide from Cryptome.

Run, run, as fast as you can, you can't catch him, he is the the Snorkum man!

 

Oh god, please do ! this sounds so amazing!

 

Maybe they overreacted, but the unions picked this fight. I have seen enough to know who started it. Sorry. It is a boring movie, I know these kinds. "You give me money or I will hurt you!"

Thieves. They should expect violence.

 

Explain in specific detail how the striking miners start the violence and law breaking?

If you can't, or duck the question, this by definition makes you a liar and a fat mouth!!!

 

Anyway, don't you find it odd that layoffs and closings happen all the time, but the only time they get violent and people make a big thing about it is when an union is involved? Tons of union strikes go violent and it is really clear to see why. They just dont go get new jobs, they demand that the person give them more then they want to, and they will hurt that business until they get it. The Mafia is alive and well apparently, the protection racquet has government national labor relations board backing.

 

I think I found my first supsected multi account here.

Winter Bear, if you are around, you want to check the log off, and log on times, and Ip adresses for Mayor Snorkum, and ol' Johnmayo?

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Liar and a fat mouth by definition!

 

They intimidated the "scabs" when they showed up. That is assault. Can I stand outside your place of work and beat your car with a club everyday for the next year or so, or are you going to get upset after awhile? When you have to form a convoy outside of town to drive into work, then something is really wrong.

Once a person is let go they have no reason to be out there bashing the place in an effort and hampering their ability to make a living and stay in business. Now I played, you dodged my questions, but answer this:

Why don't the union people go home once they decide they don't like the offer the company has made?

 

People that support the Kenyanesian economic policies of King Obama, Fascist and Traitor, have no clue about economics, regardless of how much trivia they know.

No, tail risk was not being discussed.

The initiators usually do.

Nope, just discussing King Obama, Fascist and Traitor, his infinite train of failures, and the stupid, ignorant, greedy, and selfish people willing to sell their children to slavery out of worship for him.

 

Yes they do have the legal right to picket on the public property in front of the coal mine.

What threat is made?

When are they banging on the windows?

Where is there any weapon produced by any miner before the violence from the gun thugs?

I'll go get the video, you just provide the time mark on the video, or prove once again that you are a propagandist, a liar, and a fatmouth!!

 

Yes, do that, it will be entertaining, to say the least.

 

By the way, just a random thought, if you like documentaries "A letter to zachary from your father" or something like that is really different for a documentary. It is stirring.

lol...I am my own man I assure you.

 

http://cryptome.org/2012/07/gent-forum-spies.htm

 

This is all happening on the only road to the coal mine. Here watch:
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xn...976-part-2-greek-subs_shortfilms#.UWYts1cTSjI

They have no right to do that to people. The "gun thugs" as you call them are coming to the protection of others from a mob of people extorting money and jobs from their former employer.

 

Which is why I said suspected. Some similiar posting patterns there is all that brought on the question.

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TIME MARK!!!!!

So I can show you the time mark, where they are previously assaulted.

 

Trying to confuse them with facts?

Good luck with that. Facts only work on honest people.

Now the Mayor better log off so you can post.

 

What is it about?

I think you need to watch the Light Bulb Conspiracy so you can understand all the hidden, but intentionally designed ways you are screwed by big business everyday!

 

The only reason "big business" can "screw" people is because the "progressives" have arrogated far too much unconstitutional power to the federal government.

As usual, when the government gets too big, the people start having to fear their own government, it's time to get out the pruning shears.

 

Run, run, as fast as you can, you can't catch him, he is the the Snorkum man!