So is being gay a choice or not?

Discussion in 'Gay & Lesbian Rights' started by Sadistic-Savior, May 9, 2013.

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Is being gay a conscious decision or based on biology?

  1. All Gay people are gay because of biology or genetics, not choice

    40.9%
  2. Most Gay people are gay because of biology or genetics, not choice

    45.5%
  3. Few Gay people are gay because of biology or genetics

    6.8%
  4. All Gay People make a conscious decision to be attracted to the same sex

    6.8%
  1. sec

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    really, maybe I missed something in the photos from this years Gay Pride parade. It sure looked like it was about gay sex to me; "drill ass, not gas"
    and those guys in jockstraps grabbing each others unit surely wasn't anything to do with gay sex. My bad, I must be mistaken
     
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    dixon76710 Well-Known Member

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    Why it directly contradicts your claim

     
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    Yes, you are mistaken. Pretending that you haven't been shown what homosexuality in about 30 threads means is pretty stupid. It's tiresome
     
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    at least I will learn the definition about the rest of the world and then about 3.4% of adults. "drill ass, not gas", slipping the tongue on a parade float, shaking your penis, grabbing the penis' of each other etc has nothing to do with sex if you're gay. But, if you are like 96.6% of the people then yes, it has to do with sex.

    Thank you for clarifying that for me and the confused 96.6% ers who think the definition would be the same regardless of who you prefer to pleasure.
     
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    dixon76710 Well-Known Member

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    Hell, it seems as though most gays define their very existance by the sexual acts they engage in.
     
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    gays are born that way, though some bi-sexuals may be confused as they are attracted to both
     
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    Attraction is the qualifier.

    Pretending that you haven't been shown that is pretty stupid
     
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    Well, I don't see how it actually did. Maybe you could try to explain that.
     
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    Johnny-C Well-Known Member

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    Really, what do the things you are saying have to do with anything significant? I can see your opinion, but how does it fit into things that are really important to people in general?

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    Homophobic, foolish nonsense. (That's all the above comment amounts to.)
     
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    Exactly.

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    You are perfectly correct; and the only reason to keep answering fools about that, is to help visitors to this site that arrive via meta-searches.

    After all, we wouldn't want only the LIARS to be regarded here.
     
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    that's the point exactly. How you engage in sex should have absolutely no bearing on you. The govt does not need to know what we do in our bedrooms and we don't need to create protected classes for anyone other than the 96.6% ers. Why? Because the 96.6% ers are not granted "heterosexual rights" or special protection from employers etc.

    To say otherwise simply demonstrates 96.6% phobia
     
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    Not really... you're off on a silly tangent.

    Good luck with your campaign of irrelevancy.
     
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    You went?
     
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    re-read my post please
     
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    No logic or reason is capeable of overcoming your ideology. You cannot see what you do not want to see.
     
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    You don't use logic or reason. Your arguments are self defeating.
     
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    I didnt make an argument. Johnny made the claim

    And I copy and pasted an exerpt from a book directly contradicting his assertion

    and he cant even detect the contradiction. Evidently, neither can you.
     
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    You don't use logic or reason. Your arguments are self defeating
     
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    Try shooting for the 'truth'. Your BS isn't the equivalent.

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    Exactly, he expects people to go along with him on his BS 'treks'.
     
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    An "excerpt from a book" (of your choosing), somehow manages to dispute the best, most reputable science that is out here?!

    Your assertion is just plain STUPID.
     
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    Do you want to 'change' your sexual-orientation, dixon?

    Why should others even seek to change theirs, dixon?

    Some people have been MADE to feel and be unhappy as homosexuals, because of prejudice, bigotry and homophobia. Other than that, I cannot see why anyone would want to manually go in and SWITCH their sexual-orientation. There was a time where the NONSENSE of others, telling me that it was wrong, unnatural, evil... etc., had me WANTING to click a switch and 'fix' something that I didn't need to. I learned to filter-out the undue fear, animus and overall criticism; I was motivated by the FACT that I would never be able to satisfy all of those who demanded a change that virtually none could bring forth.

    Is there something wrong with being "homosexual"? (No.)

    Now, I know there are many reasons for a rare number of individuals to go get themselves lobotomized (in-effect) to click a switch that likely isn't there, and it is a dangerous thing to attempt indeed... it's usually not the path to sanity. Even so, I know there are some exceptions out here; human sexuality is VERY complex, so there are many answers yet to be uncovered.

    Still, what I won't put up with are people like yourself thinking that you actually know and can prescribe the BEST answers for any/all homosexual people; you DON'T and likely will NOT in your lifetime have that 'perfect' answer you seem to imagine you possess. And while I can consider and be interested in various articles and studies on "homosexuality", I'll never take one of your posts as PROVING a damned thing about the same. Your bias, irrational animus, fear and overall disdain for homosexuals as expressed in your posts, has led me to that conclusion.

    Do you REALLY think, that any thinking interlocutor (within this forum) would/should implicitly take your analysis of an "excerpt from a book" as laying a concrete foundation for 'truth' (especially on this and related matters)?

    Now, if you REALLY believe that people's SEXUAL-ORIENTATION can be changed... would you PLEASE explain 'exactly' why you retain such a belief? And I'm not talking about some rare, exceptional individual... but people in-general. How does one's sexual-orientation become 'changed'?

    It is a multibillion dollar question, dixon. And you can damned sure bet, that the person or organization which actually finds that answer, will make it known. The fame and riches related to such an 'option', would likely be unfathomable; just imagine going into a place named "Center for Sexual Enhancement"... we're not just talking about making someone "straight"... we're also talking about adjusting people's libido's or perhaps addictions to whatever.

    dixon, they don't even know exactly what it is that makes a person gay/straight; so how in the hell is it possible they know how to alter a person's sexual-orientation??!!

    You and others keep spouting so much nonsense about a non-problem; you go on and on and on... etc. You think that gays or being gay is some kind of 'problem', but it is not.

    In the end, all I can say to you is, please get real.
     
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    As well as exists natural puking feeling, making me feel 100% repulsive when I am getting exposed to a gay behavior in my life.
    This is the way I am born. So, don't force upon me something I don't like. Be humane and respectful!

    Q&A for hateful homophiles and trolls.
     
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    Homophobia isn't my problem; but it seems as though you are dealing with it.
     
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    that would be called personal liberty which is again under attack and this time it is labeled as "gay rights".

    If a baker does not want to make a pie for a gay person then so be it, take your business to another baker but do not force the baker to go against his/her will. By forcing action upon others you take away their individual liberty and deem the desires and wants of the other as being more important than individual liberty.

    Affirmative action flies in the face of equality and assigns priority to special interest groups. By creating another special interest group for homosexuals will naturally take liberty away from heterosexuals. No good comes from govt mandates when liberties are diminished.
     
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    No, and no one suggested anyone should change their sexuality.
     

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