Parents who tried to pray away illness charged with murder

Remember those two religious wacko's who tried to pray away their childs pneumonia instead of getting him real help? Well they are charged with "third degree murder" (manslaughter??) and the judge has refused to dismiss the charge on the grounds that this happened before! These are very sick people and need to be locked up for a very long time.

 

An apple a day keeps the doctor way. Surprised they didn't know that.

 

I have sort of wondered about this from time to time. We are created in the image of God - Part of that must be a crazy knack at this medical stuff and mixing potions and such. So by rejecting the medical advice available, are we possibly insulting God?

 

These religious parents kill child after child, and the supposedly "baby loving pro-lifers" likely feel the government should mind its own business, and that these parents are "innocent"'

 

Glad to read this. I'm a huge believer in the first amendment, but those rights end when they interfere with the life of a child.

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Could you provide some proof that even 1/10th of people who oppose abortion believe in not using doctors in general? No? I didn't think so.

 

Not that I support these parents but do Jehovah's Witnesses get prosecuted if they refuse to permit blood transfusions that result in death on more than one occasion?

 

Religion is no reason to accept child abuse/neglect....Indoctrinate as you see fit, but do not kill them.

 

There is no guarantee taking the child to a hospital would have saved it. Ultimately it died of natural causes, trampling on people's Constitutional rights due to maybes and what ifs is unacceptable...

 

lol What? I really hope this post is sarcasm.

 

For many, probably not themselves personally.

But their tacit agreement if a parent chooses to not take care of a sick child is obvious just in this thread. Almost crickets, with a 50/50 split on the issue among probable pro-lifers.

 

It's child abuse. I say lock them up.

 

Child after child ? Proof is required .

 

I would send them to a mental institution, not to jail. They strike me as more crazy than criminal.

 

I must admit I am, in a rare moment, without an opinion on this one.


On one hand, I fully support the right of the parents to follow their religion. It is a free country, and if they want to practice faith healing, well, knock yourself out.

Conversely, obviously this kid should have had medical care.

So do you infringe on the rights of folks to practice their religion in order to force their children to survive? definitely a quandary.

 

You allow people to practice freedom of religion up to the point it doesn't cause other people harm and or death . Child or not . IMO.

 

I used to feel that way, but when a child's life is at risk and you abandon medical help to follow your beliefs that end that child's life, that makes you a murderer.

 

I disagree.

Now if it is an adult, and they wish to do that stupid snake handling or poison drinking nonsense, I say go for it. If your practice of your religion is going to end your own life, it is wholly their affair.

If this was an adult with a, and this is just speculating, treatable form of cancer and they want to pray it away rather than seek conventional treatment, I so knock yourself out.

However, the only issue I have is with a kid. Whilst I am not a religious person, I do realize that the right to practice your religion is the same right I have to criticize it. I think there is a whole lot of grey area.

 

What exactly do you disagree with ? Not very clear , and if you disagree you think people should be able to practice a religion that harms and or kills others ? Very odd post.

 

Why is it libs only care about the deaths of children when a gun or religion is used? Just close your eyes and pretend they wanted an abortion because they decided they didnt want to be adults anymore.

 

Faith healing is a hoax, pretty simple logic of snake oil, very little mystical quality about it. If you pray hard enough, a UFO will land in your back yard, and Jesus will beam down with two little gray aliens, each one sporting a medical tricorder and a magic pill that cures all diseases instantly. Yeah. I wish. It's still better health insurance than Obamacare because it's free.

 

Because, as we see, religion can sometimes make people whacko. I think this is what is currently causing tensions in the Republican party, between the fiscal-responsibility people, and the religious-doctrine people. And the religious-doctrine people are scary to others because they are intrusive. Their program is to demand that others do things THEIR way, because their god said so. This tends to be both ruthless and inflexible.

And that's why you see some NON-religious people here struggling with conflicting values. The value of providing medical help to sick children is vying with the value of letting other people act according to their religious beliefs. Letting your kids die unnecessarily may strike many of us as stupid and cruel, but it does test the limits of religious tolerance.

Contrast that with the religious people here, who rant about "baby murder". Turn it around and ask how they'd feel if someone else's religion required them to have an abortion against their will, and they're appalled. But they NEVER grasp that these are two sides of the same coin. If you approve of institutionalizing a religion in the law, you'd better approve of it EVEN IF someone else's religion gets put into law. Because that's the road you chose.

 

I think you have me confused with a religious nut. These religious people not getting their children medical attention are morons. I am simply pointing out the leftist hypocrisy of only careing about children when theyve been murdered by guns or religion. A defenseless unborn child however has no rights in the same leftists eyes, its just meat on a stick if the mother decides not to be a parent. Its pure and utter hypocrisy.

 

Wouldn't it be great if life was that simple? But it's not...........

This is another case of brain-washed idiots who don't have the ability to think for themselves and they let their children die.....

 

Well I don't know either.
They do have a right to practice their religion.
It is their child.
It would probably grow up and do the same things its parent did.
I wonder, if after 2 of their children died as a result of God not answering their prayers, do they still have the same faith or is it maybe wavering a bit.
Would they do the same thing with yet a 3rd child?

But then really, what are the chances of having 2 children become so ill that they die? What else were they doing wrong?

 

There's no such thing as an unborn child. There is a fetus. The fetus becomes a child at birth.

And so I tried to explain about tolerance. You can abort if you wish, you can bear and raise a child if you wish, and whatever you wish is none of my damn business. If you later wish to allow your children to die through lack of medical care, is that my business? Now, THERE is a good question. But prefering tolerance and individual freedom is only hypocrisy to the religious right.