Who was the best president of the last fifty years?

Was that before or After the President Kennedy had his brother Rober Kennedy wire tap Dr. Martin Luther King?

 

This poll is complete bull(*)(*)(*)(*)........only two votes.

 

He was the one who voted against the 1957 bill and who never entered a bill of his own. It was his brother who sic'd the FBI on MLK trying to dig up some dirt.

 

What's funny is that prior to his Presidency, JFK voted against Eisenhower's 1957 Civil Rights Act. Odd, isn't? Of course, most liberals don't view that as a negative! Why the sudden change of heart, I wonder? Couldn't be political, could it? Growing support for Civil Rights throughout the country? Earning the black vote? Hrmmm...

Carter passed the Community Reinvestment Act in 1977 with the help of Congress. Clinton didn't need Congress to re-visit the CRA and push/pressure bank regulators to alter policies, and even if he did, he still would have had the help from a Democratic Congress until 1995. You should at least read the background in this piece: Revisiting the CRA (by the Federal Reserve Bank of San Francisco, pages 16-17). Even President Bush tried to rein in Fannie & Freddie, but was denied and assured that everything was fine (by Barney Frank (House, Ways & Means Committee)), and nothing changed, leading to the collapse you witnessed in 2007/2008.

Reagan was a class A President. He didn't blame forgetfulness or fumblings... he blamed it on mismanagement and misplaced trust, and he accepted full responsibility for his negligence and the actions conducted on his behalf with/without his knowledge. Please read his speech to the American people, here. He wasn't just a class A President, he was a class act - honorable, humble and responsible. He was a good person who knew how to lead and how to lead well. He brought us out of a Carter Depression swiftly and soundly, and set our economy off in the right direction for about 2.5 decades. He also ended the Cold War and aided in the dismantling of the Soviet Union, one of the world's greatest hostile super powers... not through war, but through strength and resolve.

 

I have a strong affinity for Ronald Reagan although I am not sure why. lol

 

Strange comment. Why would you say such a thing? I have never posted in a 911 "troofer" thread.

 

Still wondering why Clinton is in second place when he was one of the worse men to ever become and be President and so dishonored the office he held and the trust given to him to hold the office.

 

Far more reasonable than Ronald Reagan being number one. The worst president of the last 50 years is first. The president who did more to harm the country than any president ever. Every major problem this country currently faces is traceable to the failures of the Reagan presidency. Yet right wing revisionist propaganda and lies has tricked huge numbers of people into believing he was a good president!! Unbelievable really. Clinton wasn't anything special, and did a lot wrong in his own right, but he doesn't compare to the utter failure that was Reagan.

 

Despite your attempt to try to use the most meaningless statistics to defend his disastrous presidency, he more than doubled the debt. Only Reagan increased the debt by a larger percentage among those listed in this poll. If you count only FDR's first 8 years, it is similar percentage increase to Bush's first 8 years (Bush didn't have to deal with the great depression). The worst economic collapse in almost a century happened under Bush. There was of course a period of moderate economic prosperity during his term, but anyone who pays attention realizes it was ALMOST ALL built on the back of the real estate bubble!! The source of Bush's moderate amount of prosperity created a massive global recession.

Add on top of that 2 terribly mismanaged wars, one of which was wholly unnecessary and waged on false pretenses. And you have what any open minded person would recognize to be a disastrous presidency!!

 

Yep, me too.
Enjoy!

 

Tens of thousands of lives are being saved thanks to Obamacare. The Republican created holocaust of 45,000 dead every year due to lack of health care coverage has been reversed and you can bet those whose lives have been saved will agree that Obama rates #1:


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/10/05/i-am-obamacare-_n_4046470.html

https://www.facebook.com/ObamacareSavedMyLife

 

You must be a pitch man for Obamacare. This thread is about the greatest President: Reagan.

 

Crappy list, really crappy list. In terms of accomplishments, it probably is Reagan. Obama'll have his name in the Carter/Bush territory and probably even lower than that. Never before has this country had a "commander in chief" whose ideas were bigger than his actual accomplishments, who never once knew a day of compromise while accusing his opponents of his own behavior.

That said, while bringing down the Soviet machine may have had it's merits, it did have its fair share of consequences(Taliban, a massive increase of our debt).

Reaganomics was no different than the New Deal Economics in that it created temporary bubbles that were bound to bust.

So in terms of a long-term, fiscal policy the "best" president is the one shortlived: JFK. He wanted to restore the dollar's value, and had he succeeded, the commonwealth today would be at its healthiest state. We still could, all we have to do is enact the Executive Order.

So Vote A goes to JFK, and vote B goes to Reagan.

But that said, it's a crappy list. Really crappy list. May we finally get someone worthy of the title of "president" in 2016.(Not hopeful, we have more political hacks than ever before).

 

That would put Clinton on top, what about Clinton would make him the best President in the last 50 years? What did he do that was better than Reagan?

 

Really what is meaningless

My what we would give for the max unemployment rate in the recession he inherited of 6.5% for one month. My what we would give for the 52 months of subsequent full employment. My what we would give for the highest deficit in that recovery and under Bush/Republican budgets of $400B. My what we would give for the three years of sharp decline in that deficit to a paltry $!61B. The soaring tax revenues. The increasing incomes of the middle class.

No he did not, you are mistakenly attributing the 2008 and 2009 deficits to Bush. His budgets were both DOA, those were Reid and Pelosi budgets, and let's not forget Senator Obama who not only supported and voted for those budgets and that spending President Obama signed the 2009 omnibus spending bill into law which resulted in the $1,400B deficit. Why do you attribute that to Bush?

You seem to be under the mistaken impression that the President dictates spending, where did you learn that. Each and every year Reagan was in office except for one because the previous year was a two year agreement, he requested LESS spending that the Democrat congress authorized and also submitting more recisions than they approved so why do you say those were Reagan deficits. The fact is after the inflation and interest rates were brought down he fought the Democrats and got the deficits down to $150B his last three years, had they accepted his budgets those deficits would have been $100B.

Comparing percentages over those time frames is folly.

Bush had to deal with an economic slowdown/recession that began before he was even nominated that was exacerbated by the Dot.com bust and the 9/11.

You mean while he was in office but certainly not due to any of his economic policies and made worse by the policies of the Democrats and Obama.

No it wasn't it was across the board and had the Democrats and Obama passed the legislation he proposed the bubble may not have burst at all or at least been no worse than the dot.com bust.

Why are you even arguing Bush since he didn't get rate high to begin with?

 

What on earth does that have to do with anything?

I don't ignore it at all, you though seem to ignore his total failure at dealing with it.

He inherited one that was in a strong recovery cycle that had overcome the tax increases the Democrats had imposed upon it. He did not create that growth as many proclaim and in fact his tax increase slowed it down along with slowing the grow of federal tax revenues.

Factually wrong, He requested more spending in his budgets than the congress allowed, the only modern president to do so. He fought the tax cuts the Republicans wanted leading to a government shutdown. He then fought the tax rate cuts and welfare reform that kicked the economy into high gear bring a huge increase in tax revenues.

You mean Bush43, he helped rescue the US economy with his 2003 tax rate cuts, he was powerless at the end of his term to do much of anything except get TARP passed to stave off a collapse of the finance system. Obama had nothing to do with it and that money was paid back to the treasury. Obama and the Democrats then engaged in their anti-business big government expansion with his failed stimulus and green energy policies and created the worst economic recovery in our history while piling on massive amounts of debt.

It is entirely relevant and intellectually bankrupt to ignore the political situations President face and to believe they alone are responsible for government and government policies and Congress is powerless.

Ever heard of context? Conservative "supply side economics" is nothing more than keeping tax rates low and capital in the markets to grow the economy, to keep money in the hands of those who earn who know best how to spend it and getting government out of the way, NOT managing it or attempting to manage it. That the best way to increase tax revenues is by growing the economy not by increasing tax rates.



I live in the real world. The USA is leading a global economic recovery. Maybe not in Hicksville or the hills of Montana, but everywhere else.


I think your invective will come back to haunt you.[/QUOTE]

 

Reagan, hands down!

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What did Clinton do that you dislike so much?

 

I think every president on this list had some redeeming quality as a president, except Bush and Obama. I'd still have to go with JFK.

LBJ- CIVIL RIGHTS ACT
NIXON - ENDING VIETNAM WAR
FORD- HELSINKI ACCORDS
CARTER- CAMP DAVID ACCORDS
REAGAN - ECONOMY/ ENDING COLD WAR
BUSH 41- INTERNATIONAL DIPLOMACY
CLINTON - WELFARE REFORM

 

Cursed be Clinton!

Why, didn't you know he is responsible for this:


He allowed the World Trade Center to be destroyed!
He started two needless wars against people who did nothing to us!
He claimed there were WMD in Iraq with an imminent threat of danger!
He blamed Afghanis rather than Saudis for 9/11!
He destroyed the economy (how stupid of him!)!
He ended the surplus and created the deficit!
He allowed banks to run rampant!
He armed China!
He armed North Korea!




.... [puff, puff] just give me a minute and I'll think of something else ....




You know how it is - during the Bush years, for every problem that existed, the answer was as simple as ABC:



ALWAYS
BLAME
CLINTON!

 

I do not know why people pick Kennedy,,expanded the war in Vietnam, Bay of Pigs and Johnson did so much more for Civil rights,,,plus Kennedy was just not here very long...

Had nice Hair though....

 

Because he was a true leader, a great man, and didn't walk the party line. He LED.

 

Sounds a lot like the Obama years....

ALWAYS
BLAME
BUSH!

 

I know you are joking here. Its well known that Johnson expanded the vietnam war with the phony gulf of tonkin incident. Johnson in fact reversed Kennedys policy to completely withdraw from vietnam by 1965 with a document he signed two days later after the assassination calling for CIA covert operations which is what happened with the gulf of tonkin incidenct.

Oh and Johnson while vice president,had many very powerful friends in congress from his days as senate majority leader which he used to block Kennedys Civil rights act that he drew up and tried to pass but could not because of johnsons high powerful friends.

Johnson blocked them knowing he had an excellent chance of being President very soon so HE could take the credit for it. Everybody that knew Johnson,knew he was a red neck racist who never had any interest in civil rights.Kennedy started the civil rights movement.Johnson just wanted to make it look like he was continuing his policy by signing that and he needed to sign it as well to give a reason for minoritys to want to elect hin in the next upcoming election as well.

It was the CIA that screwed up the bay of pigs invasion as well.They lied to him from the very beginning on everything saying they did not need air support when they knew perfectly for the plan to succeed,they would need air support.Kennedy just like he did with vietnam,inherited the bay of pigs invasion from Eisenhower.it was drawn up and planned under him.The plan the CIA presented to eisenhower was completely different than the one they presented to kennedy.

 

stands up and gives standing ovation.


and thats just scratching the surface.

there have eben so many brainwashed american sheople here in the states that have fallen for the lies and propaganda of reagan by the lamestream media listening to mouthpieces full of hot air such as rush limbaugh and Glenn Beck.

this is the REAL Ronald Reagan exposed.


Let us remember Reagan as he really was :



•Liar
•Thief
•Mass murderer
•Supporter of abortion
•War criminal
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•Destroyer of freedom
•Traitor of the American people
•Corporate whore
•Destroyer of the environment

what i just posted there just scratches the surface.There is plenty more in this link.Oh and its all documented.some of us were there and rememer how disasterous the reagan years really were.

http://liberalslikechrist.org/about/Reagan.html