Judge orders California to pay for inmate's sex change

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  1. Sgt_McCluskey

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    http://bigstory.ap.org/article/5fbd...udge-orders-california-pay-inmates-sex-change

    I can't believe this. Pay for a man in prison for murder to have very expensive surgery just to make him comfortable? This is a late april fools? I hope.I got a elderly friend who was put out of the hospital not because he was able but because medicare would not pay anymore. Are the family of the person he killed getting money to make them comfortable? Give him a knife tell him to cut it off if he is tired of it. Would be different if it was say heart surgery not just something to please his heart.
     
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    It would seem that the argument the judge believed is that it's a medical necessity. So if it is, then wouldn't it make sense that the prisoner should get it?
     
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    Ummm there are children with worse medical problems that these tax dollars to go too. There are children who dont have food in there belly in which this tax money could go too. Instead they want to waste this on a (*)(*)(*)(*)ing murderer to make his life more comfortable?

    (*)(*)(*)(*) that !
     
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    Here's where this thing falls apart: It's been jammed down our throats that if a guy merely thinks he's a girl he's a girl. That means he can use the girl's bathroom, girl's locker room, dress like a girl, pick a new name to be referenced by, and so on. Am I right? It's been jammed down our throats!!!! With that in mind, any surgery is merely cosmetic and according to the left, having or not having a dick doesn't make you a man or a woman because it's all in your mind. Give this guy a bra and some high heels and we're done with this fool.
     
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    My sentiments exactly!
     
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    WHAT? Since when is it a 'medical necessity' that this killer should have a vagina?! And the taxpayers should pay for it?

    And this judge is not a doctor! He's nothing but a bleeding heart liberal.
     
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    Oh, he'll get his surgery b/c the bleeding heart liberal (*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*) judge said by denying the killer his surgery violates his constitutional rights......

    Can anyone quote that part of the constitution that states a killer has a right to have a sex change while in prison and paid for by taxpayers? I bet that POS judge couldn't...........
     
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    We paid to put traitor Bradley Manning's genitals in a blender as well. This is the crap that happens when a strong country built on morals and common sense bows down to the freako fringe bullies.
     
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    The judge likely used a medical expert. Many people are pretending to know what the inmate needs.

    Darn tootin'!

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    Let's bully people while complaining about bullies.
     
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    If? Do you really believe that a sex change is a medical necessity? The guy is 51 yrs. old!

    How does castrating one's self in Texas make transgender surgery a necessity in California? Not to mention this guy has not castrated himself!

    That is like saying a vasectomy makes gender reassignment surgery a "necessity". :roll:

    Can you explain the sense in that?:confusion:
     
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    Lol, are you being sarcastic? I hope so. He can pay for his sex change on his own when he gets out. If e is in for life, then he will just have to stay a man. This is absurd. He gets thrown in jail and expects us to pay for his stupid 6 figure surgery?
     
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    One thing is for sure: women's prisons are going to to get overloads with weak men who don't want to go to male prison to become Bubba's b*tch.
     
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    The same constitutional rights he is losing by being an inmate in a prison? Guess they should give him back his freedom. LOL.....Bizarro World.
     
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    I read the article. It would seem that this is the argument the judged was won over by. The point of prison is to rehabilitate people so they don't come back. If they treat you like crap there, what's the incentive to improve yourself on the outside?
     
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    What does her age have to do with anything?

    First off, we shall start with a basic understanding of how U.S. courts work. Precedence. They rely a lot on precedence. So since this was the outcome here, and this was the precedence established, might as well follow it. Second, modern science says this is the way to treat someone with gender dsyphoria, or at least in her case.

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    You're right. He's not a doctor. He's someone who got to listen to doctors speak and have their opinions argued both for and against as an independent spectator. At the end, he made his decision based upon the evidence given. That's what a judge does. Don't like it? Appeal courts exist for a reason.
     
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    Ummmm this guy is serving a life sentence so he is not getting out of prison. Please tell me, what difference does it make that a lifer has a penis or vagina?

    More wasted tax dollars, nothing more.
     
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    Have you ever heard the expression "the test of a civilization is the way that it cares for its helpless members."?
     
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    Is this suppose to be a joke? Calling some criminal "helpless" because he doesn't have a vagina...well I've heard it all now.
     
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    Give the bill to the state's lefties...since they're the only people who actually feel for this creep.
     
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    The guy is not helpless, his victim may have been, but he isn't.
     
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    A murderer is not a helpless member. A child with a disease or deformation that has a family who does not have the money to pay to get the child cured or the surgery the child needs is a helpless member.

    But na, you and this dumb ass judge would rather waste tax dollars on a (*)(*)(*)(*)ing murderer because he wants a vagina!111
     
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    Good for your hearing. Would you care to explain your position in such a way that further's the conversation?

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    What can she do? She has next to no rights and whatever she did in the past she's paying for it now. But it doesn't mean she doesn't have to suffer needlessly. It defeats the purpose of rehabilitating criminals. If you treat them like criminals, then they know no other life. Treat them like human beings, and they'll see themselves as human beings.
     
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    What rights does the condemmend have? They're considered pariahs of society. They have next to no rights. Even then, they're still part of society, and we're judged by how we deal with them. You don't have to like it, but the point of prisons is so one day criminals can be rehabilitated and can re-enter society. Can't very well do that if you treat them like criminals the entire time, at one point they have to be treated as humans in order to get somewhere in life.
     
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    I wonder if his murder victim considers him "helpless?" Or I guess I should say would since they're no longer alive because of him.

    On the bright side for him/her, at least he'll/she'll be more popular with the rest of the inmates now.
     
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    Define medical "necessity". I don't think you know what the words mean...or care what they mean in reality.
     

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