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    So can we agree that Islam is a violent religion?
     
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    So if Catholics threaten violence if the liberal media doesn't stop attacking and mocking them. Or the liberal art students don't stop defacing catholic symbols. They will stop? All they need to do is threaten to kill these liberals and that's it?
     
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    If they truly believe in the teachings of moohammad(blood be upon him) and his kookran, then yes they are incapable of rational thought.
     
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    We CAN, and since they probably WON'T kill/maim, we don't bother holding such a contest, since today Christians are not particularly trying to shove their version of Sharia Law down our throats, fortunately, unlike Mohammad's minions.
    Sharia = no freedom....so Houston, we have a problem.

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    Well you have to admit that the thinking that "Islam is a religion of peace" has, as Geller/Spencer are proving every day, pretty much been destroyed, and the truth is much bleaker than that. I think we can all agree on that.
     
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    One sided? I don't think provocation to any group, that would eventually lead to violence [or less], is really acceptable. We can all be provoked, we all have a limit.

    What? I'm not sure what that has with the first amendment, and our use or potential misuse of it.

    I'm not sure I believe in freedom of speech to provoke - which is what I see this as (you must have missed that point). Freedom of speech is not being stifled; we have no need to draw pictures of mohamed IMO
     
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    Spencer/Geller are getting Muslims right now to do some serious soul-searching.....do they still stick with Mohammad who wants cartoonists (yes, cartoonists!) dead dead dead, or do they move on to belief systems like Modern Secular Humanism which champion freedom and allow dissent.

    Dawkins: allow freedom.
    Mohammad: kill, kill, kill if they want freedom.

    I've yet to see any Muslim condemn Mohammad for saying to kill people if you poke fun at Islam/Mohammad/Allah.
    If Dawkins did that I'd condemn him in a second.
     
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    Great post!
    In all fairness, Christianity, a fellow Abrahamic faith, with Jesus also as the messiah (Jesus/"Isa" is the messiah in Islam as well), is also to be considered a "fake religion" is Islam is. Judaism too. They all have a ton in common.
     
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    What kind of respect is this? "If we disagree with you, we will kill you."
     
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    A convention that introduces Muslims to their 72-virgins - a celestial matchmaking service.
     
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    My money says, if those two had been able to get into the gathering, and fired some shots, they would have been met with a barrage of fire from Texans, citizens. You think those Texans, knowing about what happened in France are stupid enough to not come with their own guns? These two were dead from the get-go. We ain't French, especially here in the South.
     
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    Freedom of speech is not freedom from being offended!

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    Religion, and faith in general, are taking a big big hit recently.
     
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    Civilized people don't kill when one simply draws a CARTOON (JUST A CARTOON!) of a 1400 year old dead guy! Civilized people engage in peaceful protest, like Spencer/Geller have been doing for the last dozen years or so. Muslims can learn from civilized people.

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    The racism of lower expectations. They hold Muslims to lower expectations than they hold others....that's discrimination.

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    FAITH....faith seems to be on it's last ropes.
     
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    How long before they are offended that I ate a pork sandwich today? Or laid with another man? Or opened a facebook page. Or wore a cross? Or had a beer Saturday afternoon while having pork ribs with my gay son?
    Etcs.
    We are now allowing these things. These soulless animals to dictate my life style and if I deserve to die for it cause it offends them?
    Really left wingers?
     
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    So you're going to let savages draw the line here? No more comedians should be allowed to make fun of religion because that's incitment to violence?
    Is any public display of religion or anti religion an inciment to violence now? or just agaisnt a certain few extremists?
     
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    Can we agree that believing any religion that approves of slavery, teaches that non-believers deserve eternal torture, teaches to kill gays in its texts, and says that women are worth 1/2 a man is illogical and outdated?
     
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    Being offensive against minorities and women (not a minority but i since they're sooo fragile you gotta be on the lookout) is a crime these days, a vile crime, which in some cases can lead to a death sentence.
     
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    I agree. I've seen some of those cartoons. They aren't enlightening or instructive. They are purely vile and pornographic. Now while I don't follow Islam and do condemn radicalism. These cartoonists and alleged free speechers are equally condemnable. And so, if they want to taunt the beast, let them get in the cage with them and move to the middle east amongst them. There they can show their true brevity...at least for a little while.
     
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    Liberals are all about free speech when they are making statues of a gay Jesus or Mother Mary in a gangbang. That is just good fun for liberals and left wingers. Offending Catholics is like a pinata for their amusement.
    Yet the islam is this holy religion that shouldn't be mocked.
    Why?
    Because they threaten violence?
    Is that what america is now?
    Is this how liberals see it. Because that's how hypocritical the left seems.
     
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    Where are all the "moderate" Muslims today speaking out loudly against Mohammad's command to kill those who draw pictures of him, which of course is the real underlying problem here? Nowhere!

    Look, if I start a religion today that says I want my followers to KILL you if you draw a picture of me, or criticize me, I SHOULD be provoked/prodded until my credibility is shot.....and if I had a whopping 1.5 BILLION followers, well....

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    A much more plausible, scientific, believable, and logical explanation than a magical "virgin birth", no?
     
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    The obviousness of the answer makes this question rhetorical. ;)
     
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    Unlike religions, Modern Secular Humanism WELCOMES criticism, as that allows us to see where our weaknesses are, and because unlike religions we'll IMPROVE our texts, this shows is where we can improve the most. Religions stifle freedom and improvement, but MSH nurtures it.
     
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    According to a press conference with the Garland Chief Of Police a few minutes ago, these vermin were planning something for months, and linked to other vermin citing targets of all kinds, not just this exhibit; Geert Wilder is mentioned as atarget, along with a number of people and organizations who are brave enough to dare speak out on the truth of what 'Islam' is. They were followed on social media, so as the story develops the details of all this stuff will become more clear.

    Stunts like this pretty demand that their sick little political death cult be insulted mercilessly. They make Nazis look like Cub Scouts. Allowing them to immigrate to the U.S. or any other country is just pure idiocy.

    As a side note, the officer who took these vermin down was armed with a pistol, the vermin had rifles; maybe a lesson re skill versus merely buying a lot of high powered weapons is in there somewhere?...

    Edited to add these vermin were apparently wearing body armor as well, which make this officer's cool under fire and accuracy all the more impressive. He deserves a medal. And a raise.
     
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    I agree, but that statement applies 100% to both Christianity and Islam, so Christians won't agree that both religions are illogical and outdated.
    Geller/Spencer, are, down the road, setting the stage for FAITH/JESUS to be more easily attacked....but they don't realize that yet.
     
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    Absolutely ^

     

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