Republicans fear they will win ObamaCare court battle-

Yes, Ryan will tell the truth to the American people. I know its shocking and all....

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Great...what is his "Secret Plan" to fix the subsidies for six million Americans, if the USSC rules against them, BVWC?

 

Oh the subsidies, I thought you were talking about healthcare, my bad.

Yes, well obamas lies and abuse of power will have a negative effect on those who signed up for the federal exchange.

Its just a fact.

Your blame game is misplaced. Its not Ryans fault, obama lied to every single American, and misused his power by ignoring the law as it is written.

Its obamas fault.

Perhaps obamas apology will be enough to make those affected feel better.

 

Did you notice you still can't answer my question?

What is Ryan's "secret plan" to help the 6 million who lose their insurance if the SCOTUS rules against the subsidies?

((Just rant about Obama and Pelosi and Dems again, if you don't know. ))

 

oh those six million were screwed over by obama and the democrats telling lies.

Anything Ryan proposes will have go through congress, and get voted on by both the house and senate, before it goes to the President for his signature, and obama will undoubtedly veto it several times, thus prolonging pain of those six million sufferers....

That could take years.....

One thing is for certain though, the American public can only blame obama and pals for their suffering.

 

most people don't have auto policies large enough to cover the costs of such an injury. Sadly most people have only the minimum coverage required by their state.

 

Obama?! Apologize?! Are you kidding?! Führer Adolf Obama will never apologize for all the lies, deceit, and deception that completely permeate everything in Obamacare. This rotten, half-assed attempt to cobble together a socialized medicine scheme is going to blow up in Obama's face, especially next year when the full horror of it becomes unavoidable, and everybody -- even the most oblivious and stupid of liberal socialists -- will have to look at it for what it is.

The only people who can find anything to like about this are the people on welfare-suck who will get "subsidies" -- IF the Supreme Court doesn't overturn that scam. Anybody who is self-supporting and not drawing welfare-suck from the government can forget about ever seeing their healthcare premiums decrease by $2,500 per year, which was probably the worst of Obama's lies, among so many....

"Tell 'em they'll get $2,500 back every year and the dumb bastards will make you dictator-for-life!"

 

Indeed. Obamacare is rules and codicils bloated nightmare of a law that Obama himself has had to put massive part of on hold time after time and since he and the Dem Party leadership rammed that law into place over the objection of the majority of the nation's voters it has by its very existence done yeoman's work in handing the Legislative Branch back to the GOP. It has also simply by being in existence placed Barack Obama on the bottom of the presidential barrel so far as his domestic policies are concerned. While being very bad for the nation Obamacare has been very, VERY good for the health of the GOP.

 

Ryan's plan is the same as the GOP's plan: smoke and mirrors.

 

I recommend you dont be "most people"

 

Of course they are going to rule on the language in the statute. That's the only thing this case is about.

It's funny watching you say exact the same thing as Gorn does, only spun in a pretty obvious and disingenuous way.

The GOP will lose big politically on this one if the Roberts Court does what the GOP initially thought was a good idea.

The states affected by the Federal subsidies are almost all red states. It was GOP governors who refused to expand Medicare and set up exchanges.

People insured in blue states where state exchanges have been set up won't be affected at all by the Supreme Court's action.

If the Roberts Court overturns subsidies, people in Tennesee, Mssisppi, North Carolina, Virginia etc will be the ones howling, not the folks in Massachusetts or New York.

The GOP will be forced into passing some sort of fix, something that will be vigorously opposed by the Ted Cruz types.

The first phase of the internal GOP feud will be the battle between state level Republicans and the GOP Congress over what to do. The DC GOP and the candidates will all want the red states to set up exchanges and expand Medicare (take Obama's initial offer). Red states have been slowly doing this anyway.

And with elections coming up, congressional Republicans will be anxious to avoid offending the lunatic fringe by actually doings something that helps people and serves Obama's agenda. But the locals won't want to do it eiher.

All Democrats have to do is sit back and watch.

 

It is really AMAZING to see how fervent these people are at whistling past the graveyard.

We've seen this pattern before. Any time that the GOP belatedly figures out that they've hoisted themselves on their own petard once again, you see this noisy chorus of denial from our right wing friends here (laced with the ususal collection hyperbole and invective).

Is it because they know they are on the wrong side of this issue, or because they're that genuinely obtuse about the politics of this?

 

Again, don't worry too much about the survival of Obama's fraudulent, half-assed socialized medicine scheme. Why?

1. If the "Justice" Roberts SCOTUS is true-to-form, it will decide that the subsidies are legal enough not to disturb them. If Roberts would go to all the trouble in 2011 to re-write the whole damned thing so that it morphed from being a "mandate" into a "tax", then this little legal curio won't even phase him or the rest of Obama's stooges on the highest court in the land.

2. Just this morning, on the Bill Bennett program called "Morning in America", I heard one of the Republican legislators being interviewed by Mr. Bennett. They were discussing the Obamacare case before SCOTUS now, and this RINO Congressman (or Senator, or whatever) said that plans are already in place to kick into action if SCOTUS were to rule against the welfare-subsidies. What would these Republicans do? Well, according to this Republican, Congress would immediately provide an extension for the very same rotten, corrupt, illegal system of subsidies -- for another entire year! Why would they do this? He lamely answered that after millions of people get used to sucking on a welfare teat, you can't just yank the teat out of their mouths. Not his exact words, but it does encapsulate his entire meaning....

You hyperlibs have already won... and I blame George W. Bush for every damned bit of it! If he hadn't done such an unbelievably (*)(*)(*)(*)ed-up job of being president, we never would have had a socialist clown like Obama elected to anything outside the narrow limits of a college campus or ghetto....

 

That's all well and good, but the reality is that most people can't afford top notch coverage.

 

oh sure, but they had better coverage for less money before obama and pals decided to tax them for the coverage they previously had.

 

Auto insurance was not affected by Obamacare. Auto insurance is completely regulated by the states.

 

so? What difference does that make?

 

it's not taxed by the feds.

 

I agree that Mr Justice Roberts will most likely be true to form. If the insurance industry wants it, and we know that it does, Roberts will give them what they want. The interests of corporations are paramount in the Roberts Court.

 

So then if the Republican Congress comes up with a solution to an unconstitutional piece of legislation (as determined by the SC) that Obama and Democrats passed without a single Republican vote, and the Republican solution passes BOTH HOUSES OF CONGRESS and gets vetoed by Obama because he doesn't want changes to his unconstitutional law (again, as determined by the SC), HOW THE HELL COULD ANYONE BUT OBAMA AND THE DEMOCRATS BE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE MILLIONS WHO LOSE THEIR HEALTH INSURANCE?!?!? I actually HOPE that's how it plays out, and that Republicans walk away from negotiations at that point! It will fully expose Obama as the incompetent boob that he is!

 

House Republicans craft Obamacare subsidies alternative ahead of Supreme Court ruling

 

Just another Republican con job:

The block grants and subsidies, including those for states that stay in Obamacare, would expire in 2017, forcing the next president and Congress to replace the law entirely.

This will get the Republicans past the next election and I'm sure they'll all be promising they'll be hard at work to replace the law. 'course, they've had years to do this, have come up with nothing that even approaches the ACA, but, as usual, "trust us, we'll take care of you". They're a joke.

 

The block grants and subsidies, including those for states that stay in Obamacare, would expire in 2017, forcing the next president and Congress to replace the law entirely.[/I]

Or maybe you just like to see Republicans continually banging their head against a wall, drafting legislation that they know Obama will veto? Is that the kind of busy work you want Congress to do? The near universal hatred of Obamacare, (where much of the pain will be inflicted in 2016) will be an excellent campaign issue to be debated, and the Republican with the best idea will likely have an easy time defeating Hillary, who the world knows is a champion of Obamacare as it stands! It cost the Democrats control of the Senate last year, and it will cost them the White house next year!

 

The only time they work well together is when they scheme in this manner. It is a win-win for the 2 party scam. All save face and nothing gets done except the upward movement of corporate welfare programs like the ACA.

 

Nothing the President would ever sign as the law NEEDS to be replaced entirely. I've had an Obama Care policy since April 2014, it's garbage for $500 a month.