Obama Admin Tells Landlords They Can’t Refuse To House Criminals

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  1. Steve N

    Steve N Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Obama just invented a new protected class: Criminals.

    Yes, you can no longer choose not to rent your own property to criminals, YOU MUST OTHERWISE IT'S RACIST.

    My argument would be it's racist (as liberals use the word) to assume minorities are criminals. Also, why should I be forced to take a risk with my personal property and rent it to someone who is a known loser in life, i.e. a convicted criminal? Would I not be putting not just my property at risk, by the neighbors who live nearby?

    Criminals got themselves into the jam they're in and it's their responsibility to work their way out of it, not mine.

    Those here who see racism in everything, is Obama's new policy racist? Yes, it absolutely is.

     
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    While the Act does not prohibit housing providers from appropriately considering criminal history information when making housing decisions, arbitrary and overbroad criminal history-related bans are likely to lack a legally sufficient justification.”

    If they would put your property or neighbors at risk you don't have to rent to them. Righties think a domestic violence conviction shouldn't keep you from owning a gun, but it should make you homeless.
     
  3. Steve N

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    Actually, if I had a studio apt to rent I wouldn't care about domestic violence at all since the guy would probably be living alone, plus with such cases there is often too much involved to determine if the guy is crazy or did his girlfriend drive him nuts. Did you notice that sexual predators aren't on the Do Not Rent list? Or even gang bangers? Yeah, they said I would have to make a case why I didn't rent to someone, do you actually think I'd win when the entire purpose of this ruling is to put criminals in rentals?
     
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    Who needs landlords anyway? ;-)
     
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    LOL - This is what passes for "logic" in the minds of "progressives". :roflol:

    While we're basking in the dim glow of the Obama administration's sooopeeereeeooor intillekt, I would give that threat all the attention that it deserves, which is none. I can hear a judge laughing this out of court now...
     
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    As someone who has hired and fired a quite a few people over the years, I have been back and forth on this issue. Sure, if someone is a career criminal, why would anyone want to hire or rent to that person?

    However, what if it was a one-time thing? They made a mistake, was in the wrong place at the wrong time or was just a dumb-ass kid. Can you actually tell us that YOU have NEVER done a single thing that could have resulted in being arrested and convicted? I sure can't, I just never got caught.

    The person serves their time and should be able to re-enter society, but we are not letting them do that. Today I see it as somewhat like your personal credit. If it happened 7 or so years ago, it's time to let them back into our society, otherwise, we are just forcing them to become career criminals.

    Now, before some of you idiots start yammering on about me being a liberal, I am not. I'm a hard core death penalty proponent and believe ANY predator should be executed quickly, not after spending a life term and countless appeals. But we can't just continue to force people underground when the one crime they committed wasn't predatory and/or habitual.
     
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    The point is that a prior conviction should not doom you to homelessness. Where is this "list" you're talking about?
     
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    The language seems to indicate you can turn down career criminals. But a drug possession arrest in the 90s and nothing since would not justify denying them.
     
  9. Steve N

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    I agree with everything you said.

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    The "list" isn't actually a list, but in the article it mentions that drug dealers can be automatically ruled out as being protected under this ruling.
     
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    Either you didn't read/understand my post or you speak some kind of weird (*)(*)(*)(*)ing language. :roll:
     
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    Omission of sex offenders doesn't mean they can't be denied. I'd say you'd likely win for denying especially if it's a recent conviction or they have multiple.

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    You mentionee career criminals and I'm pointing out the dojs language would likely support denying them.
     
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    Don't try to twist my post into your usual bull(*)(*)(*)(*) logic.
     
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    Lol ok, I assumed addressing a point you raised was appropriate. Lol I won't make that mistake again
     
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    A criminal conviction can doom your existence to a lot of bad things, Mello.

    Instead of coddling criminals, perhaps the administration should emphasize the importance and benefits of obeying the law...
     
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    So I guess this means...

    David Daleidan can't be refused an apartment?

    :)
     
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    A criminal conviction is not a lifetime sentence to be homeless. Once they Are free they should be treated as such.
     
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    There are places where raising your voice is considered domestic violence.

    Have a family member, who is white, was just refused the right rent an apartment because of a felony driving without a license he received from the state of Kansas in the early 80's. Guess it doesn't apply to non violent white people. The forms he had to fill out, the paperwork he had to provide, and the nonrefundable fees he had to pay only to be denied, is a bit ridiculous as well as inhumane. He can't even have somebody co-sign for him, or live with someone else with an apartment, due to his criminal background.

    What the hell is this world turning into anyway? It is a rental, he has a good job, and fairly decent credit. You would think he was joining a country club or something as anti-social. WTF?
     
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    The new regulations should allow that person to rent now.
     
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    It's not a lifetime sentence to be homeless, it just means YOU or I don't have to rent to him. I would also stress that what occurred and when it occurred should probably play into it substantially.
     
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    Its not as if there is some plague of landlords turning down applications over parking tickets.

    Landlords don't want to rent to a specific type of criminal, often the violent drug related gang activity prone destructive and/or harmful type.

    And why the hell would they?

    These people are more likely to destroy the properties they rent and cause chaos in the neighborhood.

    That means a landlord is likely going to have to do damage control in the rented property itself and damage control in the community that was disrupted.

    Would you, a law abiding citizen, stick around in a community with gang activity occurring in it?

    Of course not, you'd leave.

    And that landlord is now suffering a financial loss as a result of a bad element.

    Now the pro-crime anti-liberty government is trying to force this to happen.

    That's (*)(*)(*)(*)ing disgusting!

    And the tactic they're using to push it, race, is even more disgusting.

    Imbalances in the system are you freaking kidding me?

    The way this tyrant tells it you'd think laws are spefiically written to target minorities.

    That's a degree of willful ignorant stupidity that you can find nowhere in human other than in the mind of a die hard liberal.

    The only "imbalances" in the justice system that pertain to race are the fact that the ratio of criminals to law abiding citizens is higher in minority populations than it is in White populations.

    Its not "the systems" fault that Blacks and Hispanics are more likely to commit crimes, and its not the landlords faults either.

    We are tolerating more and more disgusting vile acts of criminality and we're all going to (*)(*)(*)(*)ing burn because of it.

    PROGRESS my ass.
     
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    Felony for driving with out a license ? Ok, who was in his trunk ?
     
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    A sensationalized article from an ideologically-biased website has an obvious agenda, and it is necessary to get a more complete and accurate account elsewhere to grasp the societal benefits:

     
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    And it does....read the guidelines linked in the OP

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    Even the drug dealing stuff can be silly. A guy sold some pot 20 years ago and now nobody has to rent to him?
     
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    That last statement was pretty stupid and inaccurate.

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    Obama can kiss my ass. I'll rent to whomever I want to rent to. It's my property and my house, I'll make the rules, not some d-bag that lives in DC.
     
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    How so? You might not know, but a discussion requires more than just saying "nuh uh!"
     

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