Gingrich- Trump's remarks about judge a "mistake", "inexcusable"

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  1. RP12

    RP12 Well-Known Member

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    /facepalm

    Spin spin away

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    Under associates?
     
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    One link on their webpage. If you had bothered to read their bylaws you would see that they could not be affiliated. Saying one link on their website makes them affiliated is complete and utter nonsense. By your standard Matt Drudge is affiliated with the USA Today because he has link to it on his web page. What a farce.
     
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    No, under links.

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    I guess I can post a link to RP12s profile next to s link to nambla and that will make him an affiliate of nambla
     
  4. smb

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    Not spin. The link is at the Website you posted is NOT UNDER ASSOCIATES it is under LINKS.

    The lengths you guys go through to justify racism is sad and pathetic.

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    With examples of logic like this it is no wonder they nominated a racist con man for President.
     
  5. RP12

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    If he had it under associations you would be correct...

    Its fine.. Defend racism... I'm used to Progressives being incapable of consistent thought.

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    LINKS & AFFILIATES

    You guys.. Come on... Btw instead if you and Mello trying to bait me how about going to a simple website and owning up to your errors....
     
  6. smb

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    Again coming from the guy who is defending racist remarks that is rich...again this whole line of attack is so farcical that even the most committed sophist couldn't defend it.

    Continue defending your racist candidate and his racist remarks. At least we will know who you stand with.

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    Did you read the title of the page LINKS.

    They are prohibited from their bylaws from using any funds to affiliate with any outside group. The error is all on you. There is NO ASSOCIATION of Judge Curiel in La Raza National Council. You are deliberately trying to deceive people by saying there is.
     
  7. RP12

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    I have defended no racist remarks as saying a Mexican is a Mexican is not racist.

    I am not voting for Trump. Was never going to vote for Trump so your constant accusations are not accurate at all..

    Now what?
     
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    Good. Then stop trying to defend Trump's racist remarks which is what this thread is about. Either you are posting off topic or you are defending Trumps racist remarks...which is it?
     
  9. RP12

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    /facepalm so now is off topic? Laughable.....

    Saying a Mexican is a Mexican is not racist.

    Btw

    The judge was appointed by Barack Obama, federal judge. Frankly, he should recuse himself because he’s given us ruling after ruling after ruling, negative, negative, negative,” Trump said at a rally in San Diego in late May.

    “What happens is the judge, who happens to be, we believe, Mexican, which is great. I think that’s fine,” he added.

    Is his quote....
     
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    Are you a Scotsman or an American?
     
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    Again either you are posting off topic or you are trying to defend Trump's racism but claim you are not which is dishonest. Either way it doesn't reflect well on you.

    So a judge should recuse themselves because you don't like their ruling and because of which President nominated him?????? And you call yourself American?
     
  12. The Mello Guy

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    Lmao he said a lot more than that

    But you’re saying he can’t do his job because of that. [TRUMP] Look, he’s proud of his heritage, OK. I’m building a wall.

    But we're building a wall. He's a Mexican.
     
  13. RP12

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    Dont believe i am Scottish at all but even if i was it would have no impact on me being American.

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    Your repeated attempts to bait me show you have nothing to debate.
     
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    I'll try using smaller words. I reject the premise that our government should advance or hold back anyone based on race. But, the premise of the Left, The Press, Academia and the Establishments of both Parties is clearly expressed in Sotomayor’s Claims: “I would hope that a wise Latina woman with the richness of her experiences would, more often than not, reach a better conclusion than a white male who hasn’t lived that life.”

    She claimed that she would rule better and differently because she is Latina. I reject her premise that such a racialist outlook is "better", it is not, it is tainted with racism. But, Trump's conclusion that a Latino may be treating him unfairly, flows just as easily from the flawed premise as hers. Yet one conclusion you celebrate and the other you are outraged by. If you are still confused, let me know and I'll run through it with you again.

    Based on the flawed premise that you are celibate: Would it be unreasonable to wonder if she views "wise Latina attorneys" who come before her as innately more reliable than white male lawyers?

    The conclusion of the “wise Latina” is no better than Trump’s improper reference to the Mexican-American ancestry of Judge Curiel, a member of the San Diego La Raza Lawyers a group dedicated to the advancement of one particular race. Both conclusions flow from the same flawed premise, they are in fact, sides of the same coin that we should all reject.

    No racialists should be in the Judiciary, period. Decisions need to be made based on the Constitution and the law not the ethnic heritage of the Judge.
     
  15. RP12

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    Yep they never thought "racist" when they heard that of course... I guess calling her a "Latina" would be... racist though.
     
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    Latina is accurate. Curiel has no ties to Mexico....he's not a Mexican citizen and was not born in Mexico. Mexican heritage sure, but that doesn't make him "a Mexican". Is Clarence Thomas an African?
     
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    Is taking what Sottomayor said completely out of the context all you have?

    Has a white male every experienced what life is like as a minority female? Yes or no?

    She was being specific to that situation, not generalizing at all.

    To disingenuously conflate that with a straightforward case of Tr(oll)mp defrauding people with his scams exposes the level of desperation his supporters have reached already.

    It wouldn't matter if the judge was an American of Martian descent when it comes to ruling on Tr(oll)mp's dishonest "university". Like all of his other sleazy money schemes he deserves what is coming to him.

    Tr(oll)mp is throwing his feces at the wall hoping that it will stick to the judge and that only works on those who believe him to be their chosen savior. The rest of the sane population know better, and yes, that includes a great many members of the GOP, including those who are his campaign "surrogates". Why are they calling him out on his "Mexican judge" BS?
     
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    He is "African-American" isnt he? Or is that racist now to as well? Then again most of you dont think he is Black so who knows with some folks :eyepopping:
     
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    If trump said Mexican American nobody would have an issue with the terminology he used. There is a difference.
     
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    I dont believe that at all. The same fools that think walls are racists are going to believe anything he says is racist.
     
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    I knew you wouldn't. But it would take away half the racism...there would still be the matter of claiming a Latino can't be fair because of the wall.
     
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    Yup, and Trump has already said Newt was "inappropriate" for saying it. Where will Trump find another public serial adulterer who is desperate for a job?
     
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    It's not out of context at all. She said she would judge differently as a Latina than a white guy would. And Trump is saying "I think this guy is judging differently based on his ethnicity, which is Sotomayor's claim, which she describes as "better". I reject her claim. In our system of Justice, the ethnicity of the Judge, the defendant and all involved should have no bearing on the law or the facts. But they do, according to Trump and Sotomayor.
    What does it matter? Is the law different for men, women or minorities? Sotomayor says she is a better judge than a white male. Does she consider white male attorneys to be inferior? This racialism has to stop, everywhere.
    Nonsense. She she was listing her qualifications for the office. She claimed that as a Latina, she approaches the law differently and Trump at least appears to be believe that this does occur in the Judiciary. I hope it doesn't. I hope Trump is wrong, but, his claim is not out of left field and it is no more racialist than hers. I reject the entire concept. It has no place in the Law or the Courts.
    I haven't seen the evidence, heard the presentation, reviewed the rebuttal, so I don't know if fraud was committed or not. Our nation is full of folks who spent a bundle of money on education and ended up unhappy with the results. I do not know if folks dis-satisfied with what they got for their education is any higher than for college graduates throughout the nation, for all I know, there is a much lower dis-satisfaction rate at Trump U. I do know that these folks were not attending on taxpayer underwritten student loans, so that is different, I can tell you that.
     
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    gingrich is like reagan who was a liberal from hollywood and became a republican. many liberals use their powers of persuasion knowingly in a bad way for vanity or other self interest.

    trump is a person of vanity, but he makes legitimate economic arguments.
     
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    Not baiting you at all. It is a serious question. If you believe that judges who disagree with you should recuse themselves from cases involving you then there is a serious question as to whether or not you believe in American values at there most fundamental. Also you continue to suggest that you are not defending Trump's comment's while defending Trump's comments. You want to have your cake and eat it too.
     

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