reincarnation?

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  1. gophangover

    gophangover Well-Known Member

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    Matthew 17: 10-13

    10 And his disciples asked him, saying, Why then say the scribes that Elias must first come?

    11 And Jesus answered and said unto them, Elias truly shall first come, and restore all things.

    12 But I say unto you, That Elias is come already, and they knew him not, but have done unto him whatsoever they listed. Likewise shall also the Son of man suffer of them.

    13 Then the disciples understood that he spake unto them of John the Baptist.

    Also see THE AKASHIC RECORD to learn your own previous incarnations.

    http://www.healpastlives.com/future/rule/rureinca.htm
     
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    OP: Reincarnation?
    gophangover, et al,

    As you already know --- there is NO knowledge, originating from the Supreme Being (SB) [AKA: Ultimate Cosmic Creator (UCC)] revealed or communicated by a universally accepted Divine Essence in the form of a Mystical Codex, Mysterious Manuscript, Ancient Esoteric Stela that has been records an enchantment, religious rite that can actually demonstrate the concept of "reincarnation.


    Catholic Encyclopedia > T > Theosophy

    Theosophy is not only a basis of religion; it is also a philosophy of life. As such, its main teachings are reincarnation and the law of Karma. Karma is the outcome of the collective life, a law of ethical causation. In the past incarnation the ego had acquired certain faculties, set in motion certain causes. The effect of these causes and of causes set in motion in previous incarnations and not yet exhausted are its Karma and determine the conditions into which the ego is reborn. Thus inequalities of natural gifts, e.g. genius, of temperament and of character are explained. The law of progress is the law of involution and evolution, the returning of the Divine Spark into a unity with Spirit through various reincarnations, which are viewed as a process of purification. Sin, poverty, and misery are the fruits of ignorance, and are gradually removed as the spirit in us becomes freed from earthly dross. There is no heaven nor Hell. Death is the passage from this state of life to another. There is an evolution behind and before, with absolute certainty of final attainment for every human soul, i.e. to be one with the Absolute. As man advances in this process his spirit becomes stronger, and can develop latent powers, not shown in ordinary mortals.

    (COMMENT)

    This is not science but rather a limited belief in a SB or UCC.

    I think that many people would like to believe in some divine spark from the SB or UCC, which gave Consciousness, moves on to a higher plain after the carrier of the consciousness dies.


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  3. DennisTate

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    If you ask me the Dr. Ian Stevenson research is pretty impressive.

    http://www.near-death.com/reincarnation/research/ian-stevenson.html

    Dr. Ian Stevenson's Reincarnation Research


    He was researching cases similar to that of Ms. Barbro Karlen.....

    http://www.iisis.net/index.php?page=semkiw-anne-frank-barbro-karlen-reincarnation-past-life
     
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    This is not science but rather a limited belief in a SB or UCC.

    Actually, quantum theory, quantum mechanics, and string theory are explained in the Akashic record. It explains that time is not linear, but rather a hologram.
     
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    Edgar Casey used to go to Akasha to get info of his patients previous lives, to help them with the problems of their current incarnations.

    Casey was a devoted Christian, and had trouble at first, with the reincarnation issue. But Akasha is where John went to get Revelations. And many other Christian prophets like Enoch, Elijah and even Nostradamus went there to get their info. It's also where Einstein got his theory of relativity.

    It says in the KJB that there is nothing new under the sun. So all inventions and music comes from the hall of records also.
     
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    Wow!

    Your reply is brilliant..... in my opinion anyway.

    It sure sounds to me like the Akashic Records information that Edgar Cayce accessed fitted with modern Multiverse Theory......

    http://www.politicalforum.com/relig...osophical-implications-multiverse-theory.html
    The Philosophical implications of Multiverse Theory?

    Actually though......
    the evidence for Multiverse that is certainly there in many branches of parapsychology do indicate that new time lines can be created that are unique and different from all other previous time lines.

    Some people might prefer to think in terms of an infinite number of Ezekiel 37 events.
     
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    OP: Reincarnation?
    gophangover, et al,

    The Akashic Record is a compendium of musings, emotional outpourings, believed to exist by theosophists; a mystical construct. The compendium or record is information in a non-physical plane of existence.

    (COMMENT)

    The Akashic Record (AkR) is only accessed through a deep state of Meditation.

    Under the AkR, there is the concept that --- every thought is records --- whether the though is accurate or not. The importance of this is that both science (such as "Newtonian Mechanics, Quantum Mechanics") and non-science ("string theory and the concept in the preservation of information").

    (On the matter of a Hologram)

    In one of Brian Green's videos on the Universe, he uses the example of his wallet falling into a Black Hole. As his wallet descends into the Black Hole, it is shredded; but the as the wallet is broken down into the sub-atomic particles that it is composed of --- all the information about the wallet, its contents and the information recorded on the contents is smeared across the surface of the Black Hole. This is (in part) how the idea of a 2D projection into a 3D holograms begins to take shape.

    (TIME --- Linear or Non-Linear)

    You cannot think of time as a independent component. Since lensing is intrinsically tied to the depressions in the fabric of space, can curve space-time, and the path of a light will be deflected as a result. This has a relationship that begins to vary inversely (linearly) with distance from a mass rather than the normal inverse-square law of the distance.

    Most Respectfully,
    R
     
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    I read both of Helen Wambach Ph. D.'s books back in the 1990's and
    I can understand why she finally reached the conclusion that she came to.

    This is pretty impressive material......


    http://www.carolmoore.net/articles/helenwambach.html

     
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    Extremely well said!

    Just today I saw that somebody had asked me who I thought that President Donald Trump might perhaps be the reincarnation of?

    IF..... it is true that President Trump is destined to fulfill the Cyrus prophecies of Isaiah 42 - 46, (and I personally am convinced that this is indeed true), then we should notice that those 5 chapters of the Bible mention Cyrus in one verse..... and Jacob in the next...... Jacob in one verse...... and Cyrus in the next. There seem to be hints that the Patriarch Jacob may have reincarnated as King Cyrus the Great of the Medo- Persian Empire.

    There are also hints that the Patriarch Judah may have reincarnated as the Danite Judge Samson.

    There are also hints that King David may have reincarnated as Isaiah.



    2Samuel 6:22



    Isaiah 20:3

     
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    Question for Reincarnationists- When the sun turns into a red giant and destroys the Earth billions of years from now, where will people reincarnate back to?
     
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    I would imagine they would reincarnate somewhere else in the universe, perhaps in a solar system that looks just like ours, with people who look just like us. The universe is constantly coming and going, just like consciousness. Consciousness goes, once the transceiver wears out, and is received by another developing brain in the womb. So where there is a transceiver, consciousness appears in the universe. For without consciousness the universe does not exist. And the show must go on.

    Well, that is what some people think, the way they see it. I kinda like it for unlike the materialistic model, it has purpose, meaning, instead of meaningless purposelessness. So why do I prefer meaning and purpose over meaninglessness and purposelessness? That is a good question. Perhaps for the same reasons human brains seem to prefer order over chaos.
     
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    Another question for Reincarnationists-
    The Sadducees asked Jesus about marriage in heaven, and he replied-
    "..in the resurrection they neither marry nor are given in marriage, but are like angels in heaven." (Matt 22:30),
    And Paul said on the same theme-
    "The body that is sown is perishable, it is raised imperishable...it is sown a natural body, it is raised a spiritual body.. flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God" (1 Cor 15:42-50)

    So doesn't this indicate that when our bodies die our souls are free to fly to heaven as "spirit beings", and are not recycled back to earth into new fleshly bodies?
    We might even say that this freeing of the soul is the last step of human evolution-

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    Jesus said, "In my fathers house are many mansions".....There are millions of galaxies with billions of planets. In my next incarnation, I'd like to be born on a planet with REAL intelligent life.
     
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    flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God"

    Paul was wrong. The two angels that visited Lot at Sodom had bodies, there were men that wanted him to send them out so they could have relations with them. Genesis 19:3

    3 But he insistedH)" data-cr="#cen-NIV-461H" style="box-sizing: border-box; font-size: 0.625em; line-height: 22px; position: relative; vertical-align: top; top: 0px;"> so strongly that they did go with him and entered his house.I)" data-cr="#cen-NIV-461I" style="box-sizing: border-box; font-size: 0.625em; line-height: 22px; position: relative; vertical-align: top; top: 0px;">He prepared a meal for them, baking bread without yeast,J)" data-cr="#cen-NIV-461J" style="box-sizing: border-box; font-size: 0.625em; line-height: 22px; position: relative; vertical-align: top; top: 0px;"> and they ate.K)" data-cr="#cen-NIV-461K" style="box-sizing: border-box; font-size: 0.625em; line-height: 22px; position: relative; vertical-align: top; top: 0px;">4 Before they had gone to bed, all the men from every part of the city of SodomL)" data-cr="#cen-NIV-462L" style="box-sizing: border-box; font-size: 0.625em; line-height: 22px; position: relative; vertical-align: top; top: 0px;">—both young and old—surrounded the house. 5 They called to Lot, “Where are the men who came to you tonight? Bring them out to us so that we can have sex with them.”
     
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    Near Death Experiencer George Ritchie M. D. was shown four higher dimensions of space - time during his 1943 brush with death.

    The highest level consciousness of all sure sounded like paradise / heaven.

    I have the impression that when we get to that level we no longer reincarnate?!

    Perhaps we get into the initiation of new time lines that begin with moments from the past
    which result in a new time line.......... each of which fulfills the resurrection of Ezekiel chapter 37.

    http://www.near-death.com/science/research/city-of-light.html#a02
     
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    Yes... near death experiencers are certainly confirming the idea of
    life on other planets..... as well as in higher invisible dimensions of space - time.
     
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    Yes.. .that is a good way of putting it.

    It does seem that escaping the reincarnation cycle is a truly positive thing to attain.

    Christian near death experiencer Bruce F. MacDonald Ph. D. was told that this was to be his
    last reincarnation.

    www.thomastwin.com/

    I believe in both reincarnation as well as RESURRECTION....
    and resurrection is in a way more relevant to each of us....
    Colton Burpo at three years of age met John the Baptist, King David, and Samson during his
    NDE.....
    even if Elijah had been reincarnated as John the Baptist.....
    Colton could also have met Elijah there as well if he had known more about him.

    Each of us does live on in a paradise.....
    some of us temporarily get stuck in the Void if we get into certain lousy attitudes.....
    some of us do not have to reincarnate any more.
     
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    I'd be bored being continually reincarnated back into physical bodies in this boring atoms-and-molecules universe.
    I'd rather permanently be in heaven with God on a purely spiritual plane..:)
     
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    Yes, human bodies are "spacesuits" which the soul has to temporarily "put on" to get around on this planet.
    Jesus said-
    "The spirit within gives life,the flesh alone is worthless" (John 6:63 )
    For example in Judges 13, Manoah and his wife have fascinating conversations with a stranger who they suspect is an angel, and it's confirmed later when they see him beam up to heaven-
    "..the angel of the Lord ascended in the flame of the altar. And Manoah and his wife looked on it, and fell on their faces to the ground." (Judges 13:20)
     
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    Personally I don't want to reincarnate back into a fleshly body on a physical planet, I'd rather be a spiritual being in heaven with God..:)
     
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    Yes, we could regard it as the final step in human evolution when we transcend from physical bodies into purely spiritual ones.
    I don't want to keep reincarnating back into human bodies because I'd just be bored..:)
     
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    The Dali Lama was on "LAST WEEK" with Jon Oliver, saying this might be his last incarnation also.
     
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    You must have a pure spirit to stand in front of God. I already blew it many times, so I must come back and learn my lessons.
     
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    Seriously cool........
    to my thinking this implies that the Dali Lama
    will be concentrating on new time lines...... examples of Multiverse over the next one thousand years linear time.......
    which could be a billion or much more years....... non-linear time........


    http://www.politicalforum.com/index...cal-implications-of-multiverse-theory.424926/

    The Philosophical implications of Multiverse Theory?
     

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