Angela Merkel says Germany can no longer rely on Donald Trump's America: 'We Europeans must take our

"A little."

lol

 

I don't get why you think we arnt trustworthy. Have we betrayed you?

We're tired of spending so much money on NATO and we don't want to hear about global warming anymore. ​

 

No we're not. Americans are extremely keen not only to keep current rates of military expenditure, but to increase them.

This is all a nonsensical red herring so Trump can show how super-tough he is.

 

An alliance is based on trust. We have no trust in USA anymore.

With all honesty, do you think Trumps behavior was good? Pushing the PM of Montenegro aside. Making any conseccion i the G7 talks impossible.

We give a **** how much you spend on NATO. You want spend less? Fine. Shrink your budget.

You dont want hear about global warming? But the 6 other G7 members want speak about it. So what now? Sit at a table and say nothing?

So what now? What is your proposal how this should continue?

 

Dear. . . do you know that, prior to joining the European Union, Britain had the slowest economic growth After joining the European Union, it jumped to having the fastest economic growth, just before Germany.

Germany still today has a bigger economy than Britain. . .and with Britain leaving Europe, Germany's economy will grow even faster. . .while Britain will SLOW.

Now, Trump may believe that he will do business with Britain, at the expense of the European union. . .but Britain IS still part of Europe. . .and, believe it or not, they dislike Trump and his arrogance at least as much as other Europeans.

Why don't we both wait another year. . .and see how the US economy AND the European economy evolve.
But, what is certain is that, MANY countries in the world, right now, would rather see the USA fail than to help it succeed. . .not because of the people of America, but because of the leadership (or lack thereof) in America.

 

NATO action in Libya has made that country worst off than under Qaddafi. It is now a training ground and safe haven for terrorist, AQ, ISIS and the like and a jumping off ground for the countries south of Libya and to Europe's soft under belly. Bush handled the war in Afghanistan expertly. With a few SF and paramilitary on the ground, our air power and the 14 tribe northern alliance, they pushed the Taliban out of Afghanistan. Then Bush messed up with nation building.

 

Yeah, that's great. Even a cursory understanding of British politics post-WWII can help you understand why that happened.

lol, where do you get this economic analysis from? The UK leaving the EU will almost certainly harm UK-German trade, and foreign trade is extremely important to the German economy.

That's up to Macron. But I can tell you that the American economy will likely be about 140% of the EU economy.

I think that you gravely oversimplify geopolitics.

 

But why don't you trust us anymore? Because trump is rude? Because we don't care about global warming? Those are the only examples you given so I still don't get it.

 

Because YOU speak for all the AMERICANS? Right?

I am stating what I observe around me. I currently live 50 miles from Brussels, 20 miles from Nederland and 25 miles from Germany. I have family in Italy, in Australia, and friends in Portugal, France, and England. I listen to several TV stations all over Europe AND the US.

What do YOU have to know that you are correct in applauding the orange clown for his dismal performance during his first European trip? Fox News? Infowar? Rush Limbaugh? Or maybe the fake polls on RightsAlerts?

Get a life!

 

You need to take your own advice, and stop overstating your importance in the world. You speak for nobody but yourself.

 

I for one am sick of spending so much money on NATO, while most NATO nations don't pay their fair share.

Basically, we've allowed them to indulge in socialism by paying for their defense, and they call us stupid for not being socialist.

That's annoyed me for quite some time. The times I've been over there it's all they could talk about the moment they learned I was American.

 

Trump is an idiot. Merkel doesnt believe he can follow even the smalled thrink process. He is primitive. News say Merkel rodered our BND not share any informations with americans ervices anymore because she believes Trump gives it to Putin.

Also its obvious we cant get any agreement with Trumps USA.

So what else is this alliance worth for? Please explain me.

An alliance actually means you can work with each other. Obviously chancellor Merkel doesnt see it that way anymore. So what now? Why prolong this?

What is the G20 meeting in Hamburg good for, when Merkel already knows its fruitless? I would like to understand why she should waste Time to plan an international meeting when she know already that its impossible to agree on anything with the americans. You dont agree its better then to go different ways?

 

Okay, so write your congressmen and talk to them about the importance of reducing American military spending.

 

Germany has a GDP that exceeds California's, I'll give you that. Certainly they do not need to freeload off the US taxpayer for their own defense.

 

Because Trump is a fool who has NO IDEA of what diplomacy is, and, worse. . .he doesn't give a damn! He believes that, by pushing people around, by "pretending" to be "strong" he is impressing people!
And, because it is obvious that, although he didn't win the popular vote, and although MANY of the Trump voters are now regretting their decision, there is still about ⅓ of US citizens who will support him no matter what. . .in spite of his Russia connections, in spite of his disgusting attitude towards woman and his sexual assaults, in spite of his obvious slide into dementia, in spite of his destructive policies toward the SAME PEOPLE who voted for him (it is precisely the people who voted for him, the uneducated, the poor, the elderly who will suffer the most from "Trumpdoesn'tcare" and his proposed cuts in medicaid and in social security, as well as his budget "for the wealthy"), the dumbest, least educated people in America, and the EXTREMISTS CHRISTIAN TALIBANS will still support him!

How can other countries trust a man like that, a man who prides himself in creating chaos, in rejecting science, in rejecting freedom of religion, in rejecting women, and gay, and Blacks, and Browns?

How can other countries trust in a country who has enough stupid people to support such a man?

 

Oh I definitely agree it's better to go different ways if you no longer enjoy being allied with us. I just think you're greatly over reacting, and I want to say that we have not betrayed you.

We still have an alliance in so much as Russia won't attack you because they know we'll have your back, but if you really push this divorce that might change.

 

lol...that's cute. Germany along with the rest of the European Union doesn't represent an economy as large as the US economy.

 

See, again, no substance.

Just bull crap because you don't like trump.

 

Two different countries. Bush was very smart in Afghanistan in the beginning. A few SF and para military on the ground, our air power and the 14 tribe northern alliance doing the ground fighting drove the Taliban out of Afghanistan. All the 14 tribes wanted at that point was to go back to their tribal area and be ruled by their elders, their shamans, whatever one wants to call them. What they didn't want was what the Taliban was forcing on them. Rule by someone from another tribe. Over time as our so called nation building placing one man over them, some of those tribes loyal to us, deserted us. Most of them didn't want democracy. But we took their choice of their own government away from them. In so doing, in a way we were no better than the Taliban.

We had hundreds of years, ever since the Magna Carta to get use to democracy. Afghanistan had it thrust on them over nigh Completely unprepared for it. No background in it, no understanding of it. It was here, you will have democracy. It would have been better to let them govern themselves the way they wanted govern. No nation building. We could have still used our air power to help the northern alliance out when the taliban returned, leaving the fighting on the ground to them.

Iraq was a bit different. You still have the Sunni, Shia, Kurd division. You have the present Iraqi government owing as much or more to Iran than us. I doubt democracy will last in Iraq. If it does it will be more of the Iranian type elections than what has happened. In the end, Iraq may be divided into thirds. Three different countries emerge. Time will tell.

 

Thank You, you sound like Trump with all his name calling. end of conversation.

 

I speak for myself. . .and I express what you will not hear from news sources in the US.

Who do you speak for. . .except yourself?

 

Russia would never attack Germany. We dont fear them.

But thats not the point. Of course you betray us. On a massive scale.

All trump cared for where "amerian topics". Where are american compromises regarding climate change? Africa gets more and more extreme. Where will those migrants heading? Where is USA support in the Mediterranean to block them off and at same time create chances for them in Africa?

Trump sends Saudi Arabia weapons woth 100 billion $. The Saudi regime will collapse. Just as Libya. Its just a matter of time. Where will those weapons end? We are sick of half-assed american brain farts. Germany blocked all weapon sales to Saudi Arabia. So how is this idiotic trump decission good for us in any way?

Tell me where exactly USA under Trump will do something that actually benefits us in any way? Also i believe allies should respect each other.

Where is the erspect when our chancellor invites the PM of Montenegro and Trump pushed him aside?

Trump stood alone at the G7 meeting. So what you think? Now that Merkel openly said she lost any trust she had. You think he will try to repair the damage? Sending Ivanka wont help anymore.

 

I never claimed I spoke for anyone else, you however did. Like I said, you overstate your importance in the world.

 

I never claimed I spoke for anyone else, you however did. Like I said, you overstate your importance in the world.

 

We hear all of your baseless attacks on Trump on a daily basis here. That's where you got the script from.

So, since Europe doesn't want or need the US, why don't your leaders ask us to Leave? I'm sure Trump will be OK with it.