Angela Merkel says Germany can no longer rely on Donald Trump's America: 'We Europeans must take our

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  1. MrTLegal

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    I reread the pledge. The 2% of defense budget spending pledge is set to be met by 2024.
     
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    Just curious...how much arsinic, as a percentage of your body fat, is necessary to be lethal?
     
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    Indian authorities are claiming that at least 500 Pakistani nationals (who had been protecting the ISIS operatives in this area) were killed in the US bombing in Nangarhar province as well as 500 ISIS.

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    Not something you want to see in your rearview mirror.

    One India reports that the area that was targeted was controlled by the Islamic State and protected by the Pakistan army, sources say.

    The operation that was jointly coordinated by the 201 Selab Corps of the Afghanistan army targeted the caves and tunnels that were used as hiding places by the IS. It is now clear that the Pakistan army was backing these IS operatives in Afghanistan, official sources also confirmed.

    Indian agencies who are coordinating withe counterparts in Afghanistan have learnt that there are no civilians living in the area. There were a large number of stooges of the Inter-Services intelligence who have been protecting the IS operatives in this area. The US action comes at a time when there was a huge build-up of IS forces in Afghanistan.

    Indian agencies say that the Pakistan army and the ISI were nurturing these operatives. The entire area that was bombed was under the control of the ISI officials backing the IS, sources also said. The impact of the bomb was so huge that it blew up at least 500 Pakistanis and an equal number of IS operatives.

    Nice moment's work!
     
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    US casualties under Bush, in this war were 983.

    Then Obama decided on a surge (for what) followed by a pull-out (which meant no one could commit to us) and casualties sharply rose. 2,441 dead under Obama.
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You are counting both actions.

    Action one was mostly attack airplanes, bombers, etc. Bush almost had zero losses.

    Action 2 was later on, the enemy started to recover due mostly to the Afghans not able to help themselves since for the most part they lacked good training and Bush had mostly quit bombing targets. Enter some Bush troops.

    Obama took it in the shorts. He did not understand how wars are fought.
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I think I can figure that out.

    i am also curious. What was that about? I am discussing a gas expelled daily by humans. Not a poison.

    I submit this to you for your enjoyment.

    https://judithcurry.com/2017/05/28/...locene-climate-variability-part-b/#more-23093

    Arsenic

     
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    Eff the EU and what they think of the U.S. Being Memorial Day. would be a good time to tell them all to EFF OFF. :banana: Pay back the war debts and then we can have a conversation about their suckage and what they can contribute to western civilization. :banana:
     
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    When i read european press reports, it turns out Merkel is also anti May from England.

    Frankly, Germany might be on a guilt trip over climate. I can't explain it either.
     
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    There go 50 years of NATO alliance. Straight into Trump dumpster.
     
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    GOOD EFFING RIDDANCE!
     
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    Does that mean the US has taken sole ownership of the Afghan fiasco?
     
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    Not even the USSR (formerly Russia. the Dim Republik's role model for FAIL) is responsible for the whack job Middle East, but what in the hell does that have to do with the price of tea in Dimocrat legions?
     
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    Cutting ties with NATO, and pulling out of Afghanistan are two steps in the right direction.
     
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    Sell your shares in the US military industrial complex if that happens because NATO countries will finance their own military industries.
     
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    Fine by me.
     
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    Well, to be fair its the US that usually starts shooting..
     
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    I dare say that the free-loading members of NATO, who've been shirking their contributions for all these years, will be very grateful to US taxpayers like you who are willing to carry on bank-rolling them as they shelter under the NATO umbrella. They're probably thinking 'You suckers!'
     
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    All the money spent by EC members of NATO went straight into the US military industrial complex for weapons, war machines, and munitions.
     
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    By all means go. You can kiss goodbye to intelligence sharing and our assistance with your stupid wars. Europe has two nuclear powers, and we don't need America's 'protection'.
     
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    You voted for Trump, did you not?
     
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    Logical fallacy. Why am I not surprised?
     
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    Exactly. You don't need America's protection, you have the ability to protect yourself if your leaders are willing to do so. But it is much cheaper to rely on America instead of paying for one's own defense. Especially when one can get others to do so.
     
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    My point is a rather simplistic analogy. Arsinic is not lethal or even damaging to the human body until he hits a certain amount and that amount is TINY. 200 mg for a 150 kg person is roughly 0.1%. Similarly, the amount of CO2 in the atmosphere can still have an effect and still be quite damaging even if it makes up 0.04% of the atmosphere. Also, keep in mind that while CO2 constitutes only 0.04% of the atmosphere, it is responsible for roughly 15%-20% of the greenhouse gas effect on this planet.

    Also, CO2 is a poison. That's why humans expel it as a waste byproduct. In sufficient amounts, it is very much lethal to humans directly.
     
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    You look at 70 years of a successful relationship as a reason to dramatically alter that relationship?
     
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    Two questions:

    1) The 2% pledge was originally made in 2006. When is that goal supposed to have been met?

    2) When was the only time that article 5 of NATO was invoked and how did NATO respond to the request?
     

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