Trump is terrified of the investigation into his relationship with Russia — and he should be

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  1. Derideo_Te

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    So the FBI arresting all of those terrorists who were conspiring to blow up and kill people here in the USA "didn't not act on it" and should all be set free?

    All those people in jail for conspiring to kill their spouses "didn't not act on it" and should be set free?

    Conspiracy is a CRIME and no amount of foot stomping on your part is going to alter the Law of the Land that Kushner and Flynn violated.
     
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    Ironic since you keep on repeating the same fallacies! :roflol:

    No party remains in power forever.

    What Hillary did was wrong but since it was impossible to prove malicious intent there was no violation of the law.

    Throwing hissyfits does not alter that one iota.

    Kushner and Flynn conspired to circumvent the Law of the Land and thus are culpable. They will probably try to plea bargain out of 20 years behind bars by ratting out the BLOTUS who ordered them to do it.
     
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    Trump isn't terrified of any Russian-themed investigations for a simple reason that should be readily apparent by now.


    Trump will never be found guilty. He knows this. Yes the rare chance exists that some far-flung affiliate who's already been well compensated through back-channels may be found guilty of petty-collusion with various Russian factions yet that will never be enough even remotely to find Trump guilty (and even that won't happen, if it was going to it already would have). The Russians and Trump made it impossible to ever find anything that could legally be traced to Trump or the Russian govt. That's the end of the story right there. Anything that is found in an investigation will merely be for show and will not be a serious legal threat to anybody of importance and certainly not Trump.

    At this point the Russian stuff is simply to hurt Trump's image and try to incite him. Was there collusion with the Russians? Did Vladimir Putin help Trump to spite Hillary/Obama and "Prove he could do it"? Of course he did. Of course there was petty-level collusion. Did it truly swing the vote? No. Does everyone know this? Yes. What Comey did was far more impacting than what Putin and Trump did by a thousand times. The Russian collusion was simply to poke in the eye the Democrats and Hillary/Obama as Putin had been in a long standing feud with both of them behind the scenes.
     
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    A secure line using Russian SPY APPARATUS is a CRIME because it ILLEGALLY circumvents the Law of the Land.

    Flynn and Kushner CONSPIRED with the Russians to commit a crime by setting up the line and their intent was clear and unambiguous.

    Dissembling does not alter the facts.
     
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    With all due respect you have not produced a single argument that stands up in a court of law.
     
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    Ironic given that what is actually shrinking are the BLOTUS's approval numbers. Soon they will be smaller than his hands.
     
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    Tell me did all that spinning make you dizzy? 60 percent of the country now thinks Russia gate is a waste of time. Increasingly the only people who seem to buy into that crap are MSNBC and Democrat apparatchiks, And a lot of the latter are starting to figure out theya ren't going to get what they want out of that nothing burger.
     
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    Dream on, after all it's the only thing you have left. You haven't produced anything that's chargeable let alone criminal.
     
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    Wrong. Point one the line was never set up. Point two unless you can prove that they had intent to perform a criminal act while using that line you have nothing even if the line had been set up. Setting up the line itself is not criminal even if it had been done.
     
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    Suddenly polls mean something again? :eek:

    Just 6 months ago the extremist alt right was deriding polls.

    Careful that you don't get whiplash!
     
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    Assumes extremist alt right disinformation not in evidence.
     
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    The Law of the Land overrules your misinformed opinion.
     
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    What law would that be? The one you wish existed and doesn't. Where is the law that specifically makes it illegal to use the Russian embassy to speak with Putin?
     
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    Right back at you...Remember last November 1st when you believed all those polls that said Hillary was going to win going away?
     
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    Assumes there is something when there is nothing.
     
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    I already provided you with the link to the law that was violated by Kushner and Flynn.

    Trying to pretend that such a law does not exist doesn't make it go away.
     
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    Irony SQUARED and CUBED!

    :roflol:
     
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    The evidence was provided by the Russian Embassy in PLAIN TEXT!

    They knew that what Fynn and Kushner wanted was ILLEGAL which is why the Russians ratted out the BLOTUS's henchmen.
     
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    Dead wrong of course. Where is the specific law that makes it illegal to contact the Russian president through the Russian embassy? The Russians rejected it not because fears of illegality but over fears about their own security apparatus Remember also that at least technically Russian embassies embassies are actually considered legally to be Russian soil as US Embassies are US soil and British embassies are British soil. So in the Russian Embassy Russian law applies US laws not so much.
     
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    Make sure you share this with the congressional investigations, the FBI, FinCEN and SC. And, of course, Trump who is stressing daily about it.
     
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    Congress seems vastly more interested in investigating the last president than the current one.
     
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    They predicted a win by several million votes.

    They were dead on in the NUMBER of votes...off on the distribution
     
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    You mean the GOP Congress...right?

    I wonder why that is...
     
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    Even the RUSSIANS knew that was a bridge too far and refused
     
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    Resident liberals will only insist that it's a partisan effort to shift the focus away from the president ... Though the (R) establishment congressmen pushing the investigations, are #NeverTrump alumni ... Let's face it, someone is still watching CNN ...
     
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