Russia, friend or foe?

What witch hunt?

 

You give lip service to that sentiment, but your comments say different.

 

Who are you to say whom is loyal to the United States?

 

Right, and when it is done to us we are going to fight it and find out if any Americans cooperated with the foreign government and punish those responsible. That is not an inherently hostile act, either.

 

My "schtick" is based on facts and sources, which, by the way, you never challenge.

 

Friend for sure. Hell I feel closer to Russians than Democrats.

 

If it walks like a duck, talks like a duck, and sounds like a duck, then it must be a ...

 

You're saying it isn't a hostile act when the U.S. does it but it is a hostile act when done to the United States?

Still, until there is something official Russia is not an enemy of the United States.

 

Cute but not relevant.

Saying that the Russians are not officially, technically, or legally an enemy of the United States does not mean someone sympathizes with the Russians or is defending them in any way.

 

There's a flight to Moscow tomorrow morning. Get a ticket

 

But I feel closer to America loving conservatives than anyone else.

I would fight and die for my country. Do NOT misunderstand me...

 

I 'am really, really tired of generalized, non-specific, meaningless criticism' from the Leftist opposition. 'They simply label a post and move on like they accomplished something.'

'What specifically was in error? What exactly did I get wrong? Simply labeling me' a "Russian supporter," as if Russia is innately evil. ' is pointless'.

'Your problem is, there isn't anything wrong with the post. The post consisted of known facts. You can't dispute facts. So, you can't dispute the post. Because you don't like the reality of the post, all you can do is label it.'

Many of the people McCarthy went after had associations with known Communists and were scapegoated because of that. It was "guilt by association" which is essentially prohibited. We have freedom of association in this country.

You are a witch hunter. You and others like you are every bit as bad as McCarthy was.

 

No one has proven "collusion to undermine our elections", and if your media shills were doing their jobs it wouldn't be possible.

 

Yours.

 

Only to people lacking the analytical skills to discern reality.

 

You dig up disconnected events and unquestioningly accept the blatant innuendo and big lies piggybacked on top of them. IMO you have no clue what a hard fact is; you are brainwashed by the opinion makers presently propagandizing this country solely for their own profit. IMO you are an unwitting tool of the Deep State. Many of your "facts" have been discussed by many others and dismissed...for example, the "meeting" which turned out to be an event which Obama himself had arranged. It is not worth my time to rehash what others have already discounted, particularly since you appear to absorb none of it.

 

lol, did you not hear about the purported Trump Jr. collusion? The purported collusion was that he was told by a "Kremlin-connected" lawyer that "Kremlin-connected" people were backing Clinton's campaign.

Russia is neither an ally nor a foe. We have some common strategic interests. Russia's actions in Crimea were based on popular sovereignty - the people of Crimea voted to secede and join Russia, and it is not "invasion" to move military units in your own land.

Many Americans are tired of seeing the U.S. aid in the toppling of dictators only to see radical Jihadists rise in their place. We don't want to spend American lives or resources merely to make a situation worse. Only Trump want us to do anything beyond the missile strike that Trump did, which actually recieved public support.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/poll-airstrikes-syria_us_58ea0331e4b00de14104006c

 

Whaaaaaat?!?!? You mean that the international community doesn't like an American nationalist? You mean they prefer the American President be an internationalist, not a nationalist? They prefer an America that doesn't ask Europe to pay its fair share of the collective defense? wwwoooahhhh

Who woulda ever seen that coming?

 

Many Trump supporters are Russian sympathizers. It is the whole point of this thread.




No we despise the left, the enemy of our enemy is our friend.. you really can't comprehend how much we can't stand the left trying to destroy our constitution can you?



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From a Trump fan, "Friend for sure. Hell I feel closer to Russians than Democrats."

I rest my case.

Really? You are attempting to justify your sympathies toward Russia.

From our state department:

In response to the Russian violation in 2014 of Ukraine's sovereignty and territorial integrity, however, the United States downgraded the bilateral political and military relationship and suspended the Bilateral Presidential Commission, a body jointly founded in 2009 by the United States and Russia to promote cooperation between the two countries. In addition to aggressive acts in Georgia and Ukraine, Russia has also sought to use information operations which appear to be designed to weaken core institutions in the West such as NATO and the EU, and to cast doubt on the integrity of our democratic systems. Russia’s method is not to advance ideas to compete with ours, but to undermine and question all narratives, creating confusion and diverting attention from Moscow’s own actions. The United States has sought to deter further Russian intervention through the projection of strength and unity with U.S. allies, and by building resilience and reducing vulnerability among allies facing Russian pressure and coercion.

https://www.state.gov/r/pa/ei/bgn/3183.htm

That's good enough official, technical, and legal evidence for most Americans that Russia is an enemy of the U.S.

Obviously, that doesn't work for you.

Nor does it work for Trump. He and a large number of his associates have had ties to Russia. Besides Trump himself they would include his son, his son-in-law, his A.G., his SecState, his former NSA, and former members of his campaign staff, Manafort, Page, and Stone. That's the short list.

Of course, that doesn't concern you as it does most Americans since your sympathies lie with Russia, too.

 

I'm not a fan of President Trump and you know it.

I support him because I feel the alternative is much worse.

If you state otherwise you are flat out lying. Much like your imaginary quote.

 

The international community did not much care for German nationalism, 1931-1945.

The international community did not much care for Japanese nationalism, 1931-1945.

The international community did not much care for the Soviet nationalism, 1922-1991.

I don't know, but does there seem to be a pattern here? The world really doesn't like it when one nation insists that it is superior to other nations. The world doesn't like it when one nation asserts that foreign policy and trading agreements favor said nation. "America First," the world doesn't like when a nation insists it is first and all other nations are second.

Such nations don't seem to last every long. The intelligent see this coming.

 

Funny every nation knows we have been Superior to them since 1945




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Check out post #331. I didn't say you were a Trump fan. I said the quote was from a Trump fan.

Pence worse than Trump? I seriously doubt that. Pence is bad news, but he can't be worse than Trump. What can I say. People like you voted for Trump and Pence. Live with it.

At least Pence knows who our friends and enemies are.

 

Don't know what you mean by "people like you".

I didn't vote for anyone for president. My voting precinct did not allow write in votes. I was going to write in my dads name (pictured in my avatar). He had more electoral experience than Trump (20 years on the school board).

Personally, of the Republicans running for president I preferred Walker, Rubio, Bush, Cruz, more or less in that order. My wife preferred Cruz.

If the GOP candidates at the debate had all ganged up on Trump and beat him to the point he had withdraw from the race I wouldn't have cared